WB Game Day V St. Kilda R10 2021

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Really good to win against our bogey teams Carlton and Saints.
We've got a tough run this next month. We're likely to drop some in the next 5 weeks. Melbourne, Geelong and a couple of trips to Perth

[macca]

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Anyone know what the Lewis Young up forward plan is about?

My guess is to get him to experience to work along hard running leading forwards. It will be a good development game for him with the experience. Young still has a lot to go to get to anywhere Bruce or Naughton level

[Dry Rot]

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Saints have the third worst percentage now.

I don't think we will be playing them in the finals this year.

[dog town]

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Bailey Dale has gone from fumbling 1-2 a week due to perceived pressure to startling to look for opportunities to step forward and meet an opponent. Even in our poorer games he has been huge, incredible season so far.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Bailey Dale has gone from fumbling 1-2 a week due to perceived pressure to startling to look for opportunities to step forward and meet an opponent. Even in our poorer games he has been huge, incredible season so far.

He has surpassed my expectations. We give Bevo a lot of stick for wanting guys to be versatile and play in multiple positions. This is a clear tick in Bevo's favour.

[KT31]

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Did I hear correctly? That’s the first time in our history that we have won two games in a season by more than 100 points?

First live game since pre-COVID, very nervous early but once we got under way it would be a huge understatement to say I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I believe the last three 100 point wins in the AFL have been by the Doggies.

[GVGjr]

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The Saints were insipid in trying to lock the ball into their forward line and it just kept rebounding back into our forward line.
I think they've had 3 big losses before the mid way mark of the season and you would have to think there is no coming back from that.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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The Saints were insipid in trying to lock the ball into their forward line and it just kept rebounding back into our forward line.
I think they've had 3 big losses before the mid way mark of the season and you would have to think there is no coming back from that.

Yeah, I reckon that performance is the knockout blow to their season, and places intense pressure not only on some key players, but also on their recruiting strategy.
They got a bump from their recent recruitment, but it looks to be nothing more than a costly dead cat bounce.

[Bornadog]

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The Saints were insipid in trying to lock the ball into their forward line and it just kept rebounding back into our forward line.
I think they've had 3 big losses before the mid way mark of the season and you would have to think there is no coming back from that.

75 to Bombers, 86 to Tigers, 54 to Port and 111 tonight - not looking good

[GVGjr]

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75 to Bombers, 86 to Tigers, 54 to Port and 111 tonight - not looking good

There you go, 4 significant losses. The season is done for them I suspect.

[GVGjr]

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How does Hill command 750 to 800K a season? The Saints have too much money invested into players who's best football is a few seasons ago.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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How does Hill command 750 to 800K a season? The Saints have too much money invested into players who's best football is a few seasons ago.

My best mate is a Saint's nuffy. He agreed that they'd mortgaged long term success, but that it was necessary as they couldn't afford to bottom out and sell a 5 year rebuild.
I disagreed with him and said that a false dawn of a finals appearance and nought else, would still see them bottom out and would further disenfranchise their fans.
Better to cop your whack and build from the draft and then fill out the list with moneyball trades like they'd done with Membrey and Steele, than get a feel good sugar hit but ultimately fruitless result from trading hard draft currency for Hannebery and Hill and salary cap gobbling from Crouch.

[bulldogtragic]

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How does Hill command 750 to 800K a season? The Saints have too much money invested into players who's best football is a few seasons ago.

In a contending side, as he was at Hawthorn, I can see it. As I can likewise see the same money for Zac Williams. The problem is they are the cream so in average sides they’re of little value which is no good for the player or the clubs. Assessing your list is crucial to succeed these days, Saints, Carlton, Essendon, North & Collingwood have all misjudged their lists and where they are. Luckily with Sam Power we’ve not fallen into the traps others have. Circling back to Hill, Saints are going to have a few headaches about whether they just suck up keeping big dollar players, or trade them out and rebuild properly. I’m not sure they will, whereas a Hawthorn might trade out a Wingard (cream type player). Going to be interesting to see a lot of decisions at years end.

[GVGjr]

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In a contending side, as he was at Hawthorn, I can see it. As I can likewise see the same money for Zac Williams. The problem is they are the cream so in average sides they’re of little value which is no good for the player or the clubs. Assessing your list is crucial to succeed these days, Saints, Carlton, Essendon, North & Collingwood have all misjudged their lists and where they are. Luckily with Sam Power we’ve not fallen into the traps others have. Circling back to Hill, Saints are going to have a few headaches about whether they just suck up keeping big dollar players, or trade them out and rebuild properly. I’m not sure they will, whereas a Hawthorn might trade out a Wingard (cream type player). Going to be interesting to see a lot of decisions at years end.

I just checked and Hill is signed until the end of 2025. Unless a miracle happens in terms of rediscovering some form and purpose he's only going to become a bigger liability for them.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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In a contending side, as he was at Hawthorn, I can see it. As I can likewise see the same money for Zac Williams. The problem is they are the cream so in average sides they’re of little value which is no good for the player or the clubs. Assessing your list is crucial to succeed these days, Saints, Carlton, Essendon, North & Collingwood have all misjudged their lists and where they are. Luckily with Sam Power we’ve not fallen into the traps others have. Circling back to Hill, Saints are going to have a few headaches about whether they just suck up keeping big dollar players, or trade them out and rebuild properly. I’m not sure they will, whereas a Hawthorn might trade out a Wingard (cream type player). Going to be interesting to see a lot of decisions at years end.

That just confirms that the Saint's got it all ass backward. They recruited, not in the aims of a long terms tilt at success, but to stop a slide. The irony is the slide, probably even worse than it naturally would've, is coming hard as a direct result of that approach.