Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

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  • ratsmac
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2009
    • 3975

    #16
    Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

    1. I am very happy with the win but we look like a middle of the table team right now. Hopefully it's just the calm before the storm.

    2. Naughton looked tentative to go for high ball. Normally he's over zealous at times. Maybe the concussion rattled him more than we think.

    3. Bailey Dale is becoming one of our best and most important players. He has the ability to step through traffic that I didn't realise he had. He's a huge upgrade of JJ off half back
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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14946

      #17
      Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

      1. We won with Naughts and Dunkley 'building'. Both will be better for the run.

      2. JUH is going to be good. Very very good.

      3. Touk Miller is a top 5 player in the competition.
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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10142

        #18
        Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

        I actually thought it was Bruce's best game in a while. He never stopped trying and willed himself into having an impact when it was clear the cards weren't falling for him early, and I actually had him just outside the votes.

        I think this forward mix with English is the one that we can do the most damage with and wouldn't be resting any of them.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44634

          #19
          Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          I actually thought it was Bruce's best game in a while. He never stopped trying and willed himself into having an impact when it was clear the cards weren't falling for him early, and I actually had him just outside the votes.

          I think this forward mix with English is the one that we can do the most damage with and wouldn't be resting any of them.
          Doesn't having a forward line containing Naughton, Bruce and Ugle-Hagan limit the opportunities of moving English forward?
          Unless Martin comes back in good form I suspect there is a chance we will prefer the one ruck man set-up.
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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #20
            Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Doesn't having a forward line containing Naughton, Bruce and Ugle-Hagan limit the opportunities of moving English forward?
            Unless Martin comes back in good form I suspect there is a chance we will prefer the one ruck man set-up.
            IF Martin does come back in good form who misses out?

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15304

              #21
              Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
              IF Martin does come back in good form who misses out?
              Ugle-Hagan unfortunately
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10142

                #22
                Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Doesn't having a forward line containing Naughton, Bruce and Ugle-Hagan limit the opportunities of moving English forward?
                Unless Martin comes back in good form I suspect there is a chance we will prefer the one ruck man set-up.
                I don't think so. Ugle-Hagan and Naughton are by far quicker and better pressure players than the alternative options, particularly now that we have what I would hope are established small forwards in Weightman and McNeil (who I'd play every week from here on). It's just a matter of establishing chemistry with one another and trying to ensure they don't all fly for the same ball, which is really a Naughton problem as much as anything.

                They also all pose different strengths and are vastly different players to one another. Naughton as a contested aerialist and also further up the ground in the territory between 40 and 80m out, Bruce one on one, Jammara as a lead up player and English under the high ball. They're all (mostly for Nauhgton) beautiful kicks to one another too.

                I think that their height should be considered a feature, not a bug. We lose nothing by playing all of them.
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44634

                  #23
                  Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  I don't think so. Ugle-Hagan and Naughton are by far quicker and better pressure players than the alternative options, particularly now that we have what I would hope are established small forwards in Weightman and McNeil (who I'd play every week from here on). It's just a matter of establishing chemistry with one another and trying to ensure they don't all fly for the same ball, which is really a Naughton problem as much as anything.

                  They also all pose different strengths and are vastly different players to one another. Naughton as a contested aerialist and also further up the ground in the territory between 40 and 80m out, Bruce one on one, Jammara as a lead up player and English under the high ball. They're all (mostly for Nauhgton) beautiful kicks to one another too.

                  I think that their height should be considered a feature, not a bug. We lose nothing by playing all of them.
                  It's more having too many jumping for the same mark.
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66700

                    #24
                    Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    I don't think so. Ugle-Hagan and Naughton are by far quicker and better pressure players than the alternative options,
                    How was the Naughton chase forcing Ellis to run so fast he did his hammy
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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10142

                      #25
                      Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      It's more having too many jumping for the same mark.
                      Yes, but we can deal with this by being very disciplined with our spacing and having adequate presences at ground level, which, in this current group, should both be very achievable.

                      English, Naughton, Weightman and Marra are probably our most talented guys along with Bont. Imagine if we can get this set up humming.
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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10142

                        #26
                        Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        How was the Naughton chase forcing Ellis to run so fast he did his hammy
                        Naughton is our best pressure forward, the best pressure key forward in the league and has been for some time. No coincidence our forward line turned into a trampoline when he was out.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                          Looks like we'll be playing Melbourne at MCG next week instead of Adelaide!! According to John Ralph on Fox Footy.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18959

                            #28
                            Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                            Originally posted by 39 Memories
                            Looks like we'll be playing Melbourne at MCG next week instead of Adelaide!! According to John Ralph on Fox Footy.
                            Hopefully we’ve got more vitamin D.
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                            • FrediKanoute
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3826

                              #29
                              Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                              1. We can win ugly

                              2. JUH showcased his aerial talent and now needs to showcase his groundball talent

                              3. The Bont can be effective inside as well as out

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                              • SonofScray
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 4234

                                #30
                                Re: Three things you've learned. Round eighteen 2021 v Gold Coast Suns

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                On point 3 I agree SOS. Do you think he needs a rest for a week? I'd be ok with it.
                                If he was spent after the extra minutes in the ruck, I think so. Watched the replay and thought he actually worked pretty hard at the contest. It’d befa Tor in his set shot getting shaky.
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