Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

[Mantis]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 Vs Port Adelaide 2021

Have you forgotten our first goal in the 2016 Grand Final ? Forward defensive efforts pay off.

How did he fair for the rest of the game?

[Grantysghost]

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The issue is we have too many players we need to get into the middle who suck in other roles.

Bont is our best mid, but is also the best at playing another role as required... the rest aren't so adaptable and given they all don't defend if we don't get the game played on our terms we get opened up.

I think we recruited Treloar, we need to use him in his best position. Get Baz out of there, he's got years to get over it and he really looked off last week, if he's not playing I don't know if we lose that much compared to an experienced A grader and he's just a kid it's ok to be dropped at times.

Basically I guess I'm saying if Treloar upsets the Baz apple cart, at their relative career journey I'm choosing Treloar.

[Mantis]

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I think we recruited Treloar, we need to use him in his best position. Get Baz out of there, he's got years to get over it and he really looked off last week, if he's not playing I don't know if we lose that much compared to an experienced A grader and he's just a kid it's ok to be dropped at times.

Basically I guess I'm saying if Treloar upsets the Baz apple cart, at their relative career journey I'm choosing Treloar.

But Treloar couldn't run last week... which wasn't surprising given the long lay off. Not sure how you give more midfield minutes to someone who had 2 kicks.. one of which was a shank.

Fully agree that Treloar needs to be in the midfield more in the finals, but he just needs another run this week.

[Grantysghost]

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But Treloar couldn't run last week... which wasn't surprising given the long lay off. Not sure how you give more midfield minutes to someone who had 2 kicks.. one of which was a shank.

Fully agree that Treloar needs to be in the midfield more in the finals, but he just needs another run this week.

I'm rolling the dice!

[Bornadog]

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I'm rolling the dice!

Me too, with Dunkley . He is a grunt player and Libba is not getting it out then Dunks can. Smith in the centre 7 times last week and Caleb 2 - give it to Dunks with Treloar backup if it doesn't work.

However, the issue isn't these guys, the opposition rucks are banging the ball away from the mids, so we need to be more competitive in the ruck.

[Bornadog]

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How did he fair for the rest of the game?

I know a few have called for Cordy up forward, but I just don't see him in that role.

[dog town]

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But Treloar couldn't run last week... which wasn't surprising given the long lay off. Not sure how you give more midfield minutes to someone who had 2 kicks.. one of which was a shank.

Fully agree that Treloar needs to be in the midfield more in the finals, but he just needs another run this week.

His numbers show he isn’t up and running yet but he does have a gait that always looks like he is stuffed.

I don’t think we have much choice other than to back Treloar and Dunks in. They are coming up on 3-4 weeks back respectively and should be starting to hit their straps. Port has players in with a similar amount under their belt who are fairing well.

[kruder]

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Treloar is pacing himself no doubt, it happened in the first few games he played for us when he was coming in underdone. I think we all just have our fingers crossed that he is ready to let rip in the next few weeks because he is such a point of difference that our midfield needs.

[MrMahatma]

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Me too, with Dunkley . He is a grunt player and Libba is not getting it out then Dunks can. Smith in the centre 7 times last week and Caleb 2 - give it to Dunks with Treloar backup if it doesn't work.

However, the issue isn't these guys, the opposition rucks are banging the ball away from the mids, so we need to be more competitive in the ruck.

A lot of clearances we’ve lost we get first hands to it but fumble or we try to handball rather than kick, and the opposition get it and are away. So I get that the ruck is an issue, but if our mids were cleaner it’d be much less of an issue.

[Axe Man]

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A lot of clearances we’ve lost we get first hands to it but fumble or we try to handball rather than kick, and the opposition get it and are away. So I get that the ruck is an issue, but if our mids were cleaner it’d be much less of an issue.

Yep, we have dealt with losing the majority of hitouts for years now and mostly we have still won enough clearances by sharking taps. Not sure why the mids are struggling in this area all of a sudden.

[Mantis]

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Yep, we have dealt with losing the majority of hitouts for years now and mostly we have still won enough clearances by sharking taps. Not sure why the mids are struggling in this area all of a sudden.

Because with Treloar & Dunks out for an extended period we made B.Smith, Bont, Libba and Macrae carry the midfield load and you can see they're not moving as well as they once were.

[Bornadog]

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Yep, we have dealt with losing the majority of hitouts for years now and mostly we have still won enough clearances by sharking taps. Not sure why the mids are struggling in this area all of a sudden.

Before the Essendon match, we were number one for centre clearances. We are now ranked 4th.

The games where we got done in CCL are Richmond - 3rd quarter. Essendon, and Hawks.

Both Melbourne games they also won the CCL but by only 3 so didn't make a huge impact

The opposition ruckman have been trying to hit the ball away from our mids to give them no chance of getting the ball, or Libba is being tagged.

I am confident we will get back to what we have been doing well. Look at Brisbane, lost two winnable games and now have bounced back.

[mjp]

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Because with Treloar & Dunks out for an extended period we made B.Smith, Bont, Libba and Macrae carry the midfield load and you can see they're not moving as well as they once were.

I would be thinking seriously about resting Bontempelli and Macrae this week.

I know that's sacrilege and top 4 and blah blah, but if they go in cooked to the first final then we're in sudden death in week 2 anyway because without those two up and running it is not going to end well.

[Mantis]

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I would be thinking seriously about resting Bontempelli and Macrae this week.

I know that's sacrilege and top 4 and blah blah, but if they go in cooked to the first final then we're in sudden death in week 2 anyway because without those two up and running it is not going to end well.

If a top 4 spot was assured I would be all for it, but it's pretty important that we win on Friday night and given we will be taking risks elsewhere with selection we need our 2 best players on the field.

[mjp]

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If a top 4 spot was assured I would be all for it, but it's pretty important that we win on Friday night and given we will be taking risks elsewhere with selection we need our 2 best players on the field.

But if winning Friday costs us a loss the following weekend, what have we actually gained?

I know what you are saying but the pre-finals bye is gone. If you want to freshen up in a game that "doesn't matter", there is only one of those left. We could go full bore ahead and if those two aren't right, PA could beat us 'Straight Up'...so long 4th spot and we are sudden death either way...

As an aside, I'm not sure I would have the guts to actually rest them but I would think about it (a lot).