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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #61
    Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Wasn't there an article saying Ed was close to re-signing?
    Gave a strong interview saying he was close to re-signing or similar. He gets our club and who we are as a club. Feel confident he’s more Bont than BS.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #62
      Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

      Originally posted by comrade
      Absolutely. If young players don?t want to extend or want to move prior to free agency, cash them in and get more talent in. We made good list decisions with Jacko and Caleb, but are willing to do the same if they?re under 25.
      I think it’s a case by case thing. Looking at the risk profiles. Dunkley had a higher risk profile and BS risk profile was off the charts. I think Marra might be higher next year possibly so that’s why I mention him. But guys like Ed or Darcy to me get the club and to me have less risk. But generally speaking we need to look at doing this more unfortunately. Or the AFEL do something about it. I read even Buckley thinks clubs should be able to trade players against their will. There needs to be some solution to the problems we face by the AFEL ideally. If not, then we just:must have to look at flight risks and cash in while there’s peak value.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18034

        #63
        Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I think it’s a case by case thing. Looking at the risk profiles. Dunkley had a higher risk profile and BS risk profile was off the charts. I think Marra might be higher next year possibly so that’s why I mention him. But guys like Ed or Darcy to me get the club and to me have less risk. But generally speaking we need to look at doing this more unfortunately. Or the AFEL do something about it. I read even Buckley thinks clubs should be able to trade players against their will. There needs to be some solution to the problems we face by the AFEL ideally. If not, then we just:must have to look at flight risks and cash in while there’s peak value.
        You?re right, and it?s dependent on the conversation we?re having with players and management. If we?ve offered a fair deal, I would be asking why Richards hasn?t re-signed yet. And yes, Marra is definitely one we should be asking to either shit or get off the pot.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7704

          #64
          Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

          Originally posted by comrade
          You?re right, and it?s dependent on the conversation we?re having with players and management. If we?ve offered a fair deal, I would be asking why Richards hasn?t re-signed yet. And yes, Marra is definitely one we should be asking to either shit or get off the pot.
          We need to seriously consider Marra for Butters. Marra honestly feels like he'll jet to a big club who's in the top 6.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #65
            Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

            Originally posted by comrade
            You?re right, and it?s dependent on the conversation we?re having with players and management. If we?ve offered a fair deal, I would be asking why Richards hasn?t re-signed yet. And yes, Marra is definitely one we should be asking to either shit or get off the pot.
            I hope Marra pulls it all together next year and the three talks works. If not, imagine the trade period of a first rounder, him and up to $3M on the table.

            Or he walks the following year and the picks get sucked up by West/Cooney &/or pushed into another year down the track.

            Two very different paths….
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15323

              #66
              Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

              Originally posted by Sedat
              The Paul Connors interview this morning on SEN was quite illuminating. He could not have been more effusive in his praise of Sam Power:

              "Sam Power is very good at his job"
              "Don't even waste your time threatening someone like Sam Power, he will just laugh in your face"
              Thanks for mentioning this interview, I went back and had a listen.

              The other interesting comment from Paul Connors was that due to the amount of deals Power was working on late; made Mackie blink and actually asked Connors what we are doing next, Connors suggested adding something to pick 17 to keep things moving which then helped facilitate the Macrae and Kennedy deal.

              Connors mentioned twice in the interview at different stages how good Power is at his job. Once in reference to the Smith and Macrae trade and the second time was when Cornes put to Connors the reason Dan Houston was traded cheaply was because of the Connors group power and the industry is scared of them. Connors denied that and then referenced you don't want to threaten Sam Power he will just laugh in your face.

              Earlier in the week BT and I had a bit of backwards and forwards over the pro's and con's of delaying deals until the last 30 minutes.

              Sam Power has a clear strategy when it comes to trading when we have limited leverage - use the clock to our advantage and by all accounts from Connors he did that very well again.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15323

                #67
                Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                We need to seriously consider Marra for Butters. Marra honestly feels like he'll jet to a big club who's in the top 6.
                The problem is I cannot see Marra going to Port Adelaide.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7704

                  #68
                  Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  The problem is I cannot see Marra going to Port Adelaide.
                  Yes true. Perhaps a 3rd team needs to get involved however it'd be difficult with picks as Marra will pick a big top 6 vic club.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #69
                    Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    The problem is I cannot see Marra going to Port Adelaide.
                    Cough. Warner-WA. Marra-Sydney. 3 firsts-WBFC. Cough.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15323

                      #70
                      Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Cough. Warner-WA. Marra-Sydney. 3 firsts-WBFC. Cough.
                      Yeah, that three club trade would work.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #71
                        Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Yeah, that three club trade would work.
                        What trade? Pin this on Jeenak please.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15449

                          #72
                          Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          Thanks for mentioning this interview, I went back and had a listen.

                          The other interesting comment from Paul Connors was that due to the amount of deals Power was working on late; made Mackie blink and actually asked Connors what we are doing next, Connors suggested adding something to pick 17 to keep things moving which then helped facilitate the Macrae and Kennedy deal.

                          Connors mentioned twice in the interview at different stages how good Power is at his job. Once in reference to the Smith and Macrae trade and the second time was when Cornes put to Connors the reason Dan Houston was traded cheaply was because of the Connors group power and the industry is scared of them. Connors denied that and then referenced you don't want to threaten Sam Power he will just laugh in your face.

                          Earlier in the week BT and I had a bit of backwards and forwards over the pro's and con's of delaying deals until the last 30 minutes.

                          Sam Power has a clear strategy when it comes to trading when we have limited leverage - use the clock to our advantage and by all accounts from Connors he did that very well again.
                          Power is a jet... we've had some really shit hands during his time and each time he sticks to his guns and drags out every bit of value he can.... and then doesn't overpay when bringing in players.

                          Whilst others on here think he buckles or gets bent over, comments from those in the game like Conners show that this isn't true.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18972

                            #73
                            Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Power is a jet... we've had some really shit hands during his time and each time he sticks to his guns and drags out every bit of value he can.... and then doesn't overpay when bringing in players.

                            Whilst others on here think he buckles or gets bent over, comments from those in the game like Conners show that this isn't true.
                            Yep he's a gun
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #74
                              Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                              The single biggest problem with Sam Power is losing him or promoting him and having to find someone close to his level. Been saying it pretty such since the get go. He’s pulled off some great trades, refused big shit deals/Essendon-Dunkley and shown the competition how to game the points system.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Uninformed
                                Draftee
                                • Jan 2023
                                • 826

                                #75
                                Re: Sam Power, List Boss - From Start to Now

                                He leaves me feeling the club is in safe hands and, on reflection, I haven't felt that way about our list management before.

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