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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7305

    #31
    Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

    Defenders: (7)

    Talls: Keath, Cordy. Backup: Schache
    Midsize: Williams, Dale, Richards. Backup: Wood
    Lock-down: Duryea


    Either Schache or Wood play depending on the opponent.

    Rucks (1): Martin

    Inside Mids (4):
    Bont
    Macrae
    Liber
    Dunks
    Backup: Lipinski

    Outside Mids (3):
    Hunter
    Treloar
    B. Smith
    (Backup: R. Smith)

    Forwards (7):
    Tall: Naughton, Bruce, English (Ruck Support).
    Medium: Weightman, Daniel (Mid support), Garcia (O-Mid Support), JJ (Utility)

    I'm a bit concerned we really only have 4x forwards in the team but that's life. I guess VDM could take Garcia's spot??
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 17921

      #32
      Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

      Originally posted by mjp
      Defenders: (7)

      Talls: Keath, Cordy. Backup: Schache
      Midsize: Williams, Dale, Richards. Backup: Wood
      Lock-down: Duryea


      Either Schache or Wood play depending on the opponent.

      Rucks (1): Martin

      Inside Mids (4):
      Bont
      Macrae
      Liber
      Dunks
      Backup: Lipinski

      Outside Mids (3):
      Hunter
      Treloar
      B. Smith
      (Backup: R. Smith)

      Forwards (7):
      Tall: Naughton, Bruce, English (Ruck Support).
      Medium: Weightman, Daniel (Mid support), Garcia (O-Mid Support), JJ (Utility)

      I'm a bit concerned we really only have 4x forwards in the team but that's life. I guess VDM could take Garcia's spot??
      And if Martin is cooked?
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14868

        #33
        Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

        Originally posted by mjp
        Defenders: (7)

        Talls: Keath, Cordy. Backup: Schache
        Midsize: Williams, Dale, Richards. Backup: Wood
        Lock-down: Duryea


        Either Schache or Wood play depending on the opponent.

        Rucks (1): Martin

        Inside Mids (4):
        Bont
        Macrae
        Liber
        Dunks
        Backup: Lipinski

        Outside Mids (3):
        Hunter
        Treloar
        B. Smith
        (Backup: R. Smith)

        Forwards (7):
        Tall: Naughton, Bruce, English (Ruck Support).
        Medium: Weightman, Daniel (Mid support), Garcia (O-Mid Support), JJ (Utility)

        I'm a bit concerned we really only have 4x forwards in the team but that's life. I guess VDM could take Garcia's spot??
        I have real doubts that Martin is going to be fit.
        English slips into first ruck, Marra comes in for him.
        That probably means Schache comes in instead of Wood as he can chop out in the ruck and Bruce's forward craft dips significantly when he also has to ruck.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66096

          #34
          Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

          Originally posted by mjp
          Defenders: (7)

          Talls: Keath, Cordy. Backup: Schache
          Midsize: Williams, Dale, Richards. Backup: Wood
          Lock-down: Duryea


          Either Schache or Wood play depending on the opponent.
          No love for Gardner
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7305

            #35
            Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

            Originally posted by bornadog
            No love for Gardner
            I think Gardner is great. With young players tho, they need to be in and IN FORM to hold their spot...I just can't see how he meets those criteria.

            And I have JUH ahead of Hannan so if Martin doesn't play, well:

            English Rucks
            JUH forward.

            Decision made on whether Bruce rucks (better for balance) or Schache/Young comes in to provide direct ruck support.
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66096

              #36
              Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

              Originally posted by mjp
              I think Gardner is great. With young players tho, they need to be in and IN FORM to hold their spot...I just can't see how he meets those criteria.

              And I have JUH ahead of Hannan so if Martin doesn't play, well:

              English Rucks
              JUH forward.

              Decision made on whether Bruce rucks (better for balance) or Schache/Young comes in to provide direct ruck support.
              He is cutting it fine to be ready for finals.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                #37
                Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                So I ask this, ‘IF’ Richards isn’t going to sign &/or play elsewhere next year, should that change anything?

                Put Daniel into that HB role and free up a spot for Garcia to play a outside mid/forward role? The experience to Garcia would be immense and benefit us long term.

                Or is it just pick the best available and give others a taste next year?
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18882

                  #38
                  Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  So I ask this, ‘IF’ Richards isn’t going to sign &/or play elsewhere next year, should that change anything?

                  Put Daniel into that HB role and free up a spot for Garcia to play a outside mid/forward role? The experience to Garcia would be immense and benefit us long term.

                  Or is it just pick the best available and give others a taste next year?
                  I don't think it should be considered tbh. Just play the best team for the now it's a pro sport.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #39
                    Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    I don't think it should be considered tbh. Just play the best team for the now it's a pro sport.
                    Not a punitive measure. But if he could be covered and if the experience for Garcia would be immense for his development as a dogs player in 2022. We have enough good and flexible players to not lose anything.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18882

                      #40
                      Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Not a punitive measure. But if he could be covered and if the experience for Garcia would be immense for his development as a dogs player in 2022. We have enough good and flexible players to not lose anything.
                      That's a fair point, I really love Garcia he's got something special.

                      Just think there should be a bit of a separation bw contracts and on field. But I can see how there would certainly be some grey.

                      Ed is a ripper. Billy Gowers brought him over one night at a function they were like a couple of giggling school kids. Can you imagine Gowers the role model

                      Both really good kids.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #41
                        Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        That's a fair point, I really love Garcia he's got something special.

                        Just think there should be a bit of a separation bw contracts and on field. But I can see how there would certainly be some grey.

                        Ed is a ripper. Billy Gowers brought him over one night at a function they were like a couple of giggling school kids. Can you imagine Gowers the role model

                        Both really good kids.
                        In an ideal world, Richards signs this week and the question is moot.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44283

                          #42
                          Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          So I ask this, ‘IF’ Richards isn’t going to sign &/or play elsewhere next year, should that change anything?

                          Put Daniel into that HB role and free up a spot for Garcia to play a outside mid/forward role? The experience to Garcia would be immense and benefit us long term.

                          Or is it just pick the best available and give others a taste next year?
                          There is a distinct difference for me with the options above.
                          If he is just unsigned he should be selected. If the indications are he isn't going to sign and is leaving us then we don't play him.
                          Having said that, I doubt any player (or his manager) will flag their intentions to leave at the end of the season when it may impact their finals spot. "We are still in negotiations with the club" will be their position.

                          I'm confident as I can be that he will be playing for us next season.
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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10086

                            #43
                            Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                            We usually pool the signings so wouldn’t expect anything this week, but at the same time there’s been a rough priority order to them so its not not concerning to see Scott signed up first.

                            I love Ed irrationally and really really want him to stay.
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18882

                              #44
                              Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              There is a distinct difference for me with the options above.
                              If he is just unsigned he should be selected. If the indications are he isn't going to sign and is leaving us then we don't play him.
                              Having said that, I doubt any player (or his manager) will flag their intentions to leave at the end of the season when it may impact their finals spot. "We are still in negotiations with the club" will be their position.

                              I'm confident as I can be that he will be playing for us next season.
                              Can we ever get to a point where he says he's going but we can still embrace him whilst we have him? I feel we are a bit immature re this.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Bulldog Joe
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5498

                                #45
                                Re: Your Best 22 for Finals

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Can we ever get to a point where he says he's going but we can still embrace him whilst we have him? I feel we are a bit immature re this.
                                Regardless of contracts we pick our best side.

                                Nothing else matters when you chasing the ultimate prize.
                                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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