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  • SonofScray
    Coaching Staff
    • Apr 2008
    • 4214

    #31
    Re: Cody Head Knock

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Should Adams get done for the hit?
    Yes, if Gardy got a fine, this is weeks.
    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5569

      #32
      Re: Cody Head Knock

      The thing that has me hopeful on Cody is that he seemed completely unaffected every time he was on-screen.

      Bont, I'm not so sure. The vision didn't really show any hyperextension of the knee (which would be typical ACL), potentially he landed heavily on the bent knee with force up through his femur/thigh (which is potential PCL) but he also had his calf stomped on. His response to the final siren says he's in trouble, in my eyes. But I would chuck him in the goalsquare at anything above 60%.

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #33
        Re: Cody Head Knock

        Hopefully that blonde mop cushioned the blow.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #34
          Re: Cody Head Knock

          Fox Sports reporting it as a ‘head knock’. Bevo was in the grey, not firmly committing either way and leaving it to our CMO:

          Beveridge said the Dogs will clarify Weightman’s condition.

          “I haven’t got the detail and I’d rather not make any statements around it,” Beveridge said.

          “I’m not sure. I’ll have to catch up with (the club’s chief medical officer) Greg Clugston and see what’s happening. I’d say it’s likely that he won’t be available.”
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 8896

            #35
            Re: Cody Head Knock

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Fox Sports reporting it as a ‘head knock’. Bevo was in the grey, not firmly committing either way and leaving it to our CMO:

            Beveridge said the Dogs will clarify Weightman’s condition.

            “I haven’t got the detail and I’d rather not make any statements around it,” Beveridge said.

            “I’m not sure. I’ll have to catch up with (the club’s chief medical officer) Greg Clugston and see what’s happening. I’d say it’s likely that he won’t be available.”

            And a wink to go with it..
            We'll fight hard to get him in, if no concussion found.... but there are a couple of precedents in-season for players missing even though not being confirmed as concussed..
            I'd say Cody is unlikely.

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5569

              #36
              Re: Cody Head Knock

              I've watched the Bont replay close to 50 times (would love another angle to spice things up) - he has definitely damaged his PCL, but the question is how badly. Billy Slater played a few seasons of rugby league with a ruptured PCL, and Adam Goodes famously played out the 2012 Grand Final with a ruptured PCL - so there is potential and precedent for Bont to play.

              At what point do you take someone else ahead of the best player in the comp? How far off fully fit do we back him in?

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                #37
                Re: Cody Head Knock

                Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                And a wink to go with it..
                We'll fight hard to get him in, if no concussion found.... but there are a couple of precedents in-season for players missing even though not being confirmed as concussed..
                I'd say Cody is unlikely.
                Round 2 (I think), Collingwood player off with a ‘head knock’. Exact same thing. AFEL let the player play. If the medical evidence is no concussion then there needs to be lawyers if he’s attempted at being disallowed.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  #38
                  Re: Cody Head Knock

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs
                  I've watched the Bont replay close to 50 times (would love another angle to spice things up) - he has definitely damaged his PCL, but the question is how badly. Billy Slater played a few seasons of rugby league with a ruptured PCL, and Adam Goodes famously played out the 2012 Grand Final with a ruptured PCL - so there is potential and precedent for Bont to play.

                  At what point do you take someone else ahead of the best player in the comp? How far off fully fit do we back him in?
                  If he can upright, he plays for mine. Even at Full Forward if necessary.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • jazzadogs
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5569

                    #39
                    Re: Cody Head Knock

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Round 2 (I think), Collingwood player off with a ‘head knock’. Exact same thing. AFEL let the player play. If the medical evidence is no concussion then there needs to be lawyers if he’s attempted at being disallowed.
                    They also had Murphy and Roughead suffer head knocks in round 9 and miss the following week, despite passing their tests...

                    "Murphy was subbed out of the Pies' win over the Roos, and while Roughead cleared his match-day concussion test, the club said it is not the sole defining factor.

                    "The (concussion) protocols involve a fair bit more than the match day test and with all of the factors considered our doctors determined that it is in Nathan’s and Jordan’s best interests to miss," Wright said.

                    "We spoke with the AFL for the sake of clarity, and support the view that decisions on concussive episodes are often complex and in need of caution."

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #40
                      Re: Cody Head Knock

                      Originally posted by jazzadogs
                      They also had Murphy and Roughead suffer head knocks in round 9 and miss the following week, despite passing their tests...

                      "Murphy was subbed out of the Pies' win over the Roos, and while Roughead cleared his match-day concussion test, the club said it is not the sole defining factor.

                      "The (concussion) protocols involve a fair bit more than the match day test and with all of the factors considered our doctors determined that it is in Nathan’s and Jordan’s best interests to miss," Wright said.

                      "We spoke with the AFL for the sake of clarity, and support the view that decisions on concussive episodes are often complex and in need of caution."
                      Don’t deny that. It’s if our CMO says after all the tests and protocols he is satisfied no concussion and there is no risk to player at all and clears him to play.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10086

                        #41
                        Re: Cody Head Knock

                        I just watched it back and in my medical opinion man was clearly not right after the knock. I’d be shocked if he can play.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8896

                          #42
                          Re: Cody Head Knock

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          I just watched it back and in my medical opinion man was clearly not right after the knock. I’d be shocked if he can play.
                          Yeah that was my thought at the time... I hope we're wrong...He's made for big moment's in finals.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21577

                            #43
                            Re: Cody Head Knock

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            So what does that mean?
                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            OK i just hear knee.
                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            PCL or ACL? You hear.
                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Ok sorry to be clear I have no news at all, i've reached out but heard nothing. Sorry I'm probably projecting.
                            Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            I'm not yet sufficiently liquored up yet to work this out.. I'll come back to this once I've polished off the first bottle.
                            A knee bends one way, a PCL usually is a result of a front on knock from the front which goes against the natural flex of the joint. Bevo said Bont got one from the back of the knee, meaning that to damage the PCL from behind it would have to be substantial and sudden impact.

                            I'm not a doctor-scientitian-ortho-expert but if it's from behind it's probably not that bad, or it is, I don't know.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11115

                              #44
                              Re: Cody Head Knock

                              Hopefully Bont recovers fine but if you watch in the seconds after (just before THAT Bailey goal), he tried to get moving and couldn't. It didn't look good, nor did his reaction when they were testing it on the bench.

                              Thought he looked a bit subdued when the siren went.

                              Either way he won't be 100%. If he's 80% play him as the deepest forward.
                              W00F!

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                #45
                                Re: Cody Head Knock

                                From the clubs match report:

                                “livewire forward Cody Weightman was subbed out of the game with a head knock.”

                                Club seems to be avoiding using the word concussion.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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