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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

    An obvious one to kick off.

    Both first half’s we’ve just stuck around and not been blown away by the ‘more fancied team’. Absorbed the pressure, not been overwhelmed by the pressure and against Essendon led by 3 points at half time, against Lions 1 point at half time.

    After half time we’ve run the games out well. Turned it on hard late against Essendon, and in the arm wrestle last night covered the ground and still had plenty of run to do enough to chalk up the win. Our fitness is clearly good.


    So my take on this, if we can get the game against Port Adelaide close to half time (at worst), we’ve got the will to fight, cover the ground well and provide run when the pressure turns up late. So if it’s close at half time, our players have the capacity to run out the second half well.


    What have you seen so far in the two finals applicable to the final this week?

    Certain player numbers needed?
    Team stats needed?
    Ratings? ie Pressure?
    Player times in sections of the ground?
    Etc.
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 05-09-2021, 03:49 PM.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

    Bailey Smith 4.0 this finals series.

    Do we move him more permanently forward this week and get Treloar onto the ball a little more, get him playing on instinct again? Would Smith at half forward make life harder for Port?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18043

      #3
      Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Bailey Smith 4.0 this finals series.

      Do we move him more permanently forward and get Treloar onto the ball a little more, get him playing on instinct again?
      I would be making that move, for sure.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

        Originally posted by comrade
        I would be making that move, for sure.
        Hinkley has to think about Smith not repeating last night again. Who would he send to him?
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #5
          Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

          Interesting echos. Get them near the goals is my assessment:

          Bontempelli Best 26 (2016) - Current 26 Goals
          Macrae Best 9 (2 in 2016) - Current 6 Goals
          Libba Best 14 (2016) - Current 14 Goals
          Daniel Best 11 (2016) - Current 7 Goals
          Jason J Best 10 (6 in 2016) - Current 13 Goals
          Hunter Best 18 (10 in 2016) - Current 9 Goals

          2016: 69 Goals to the Grand Final

          2021: 75 Goals to the Semi Final

          Our mids made up a lack of dominant KPF’s in 2016.
          Our mids are doing it again in 2021. Spreading the goal kicking across our mids is already ahead of goals and two games early. Hopefully they can keep ticking it over.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • merantau
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2015
            • 4064

            #6
            Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

            There were a number of occasions where we could have really put some scoreboard pressure on had we delivered the ball better going onside 50 or chosen a better option.
            Fix that up and maintain our intensity and Port will not cope.
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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5844

              #7
              Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

              English has been better in the ruck the last two weeks, but we haven't asked him to spend as much time there. It's like if he's the #1 ruck with 5 mins a quarter from Bruce he paces himself, but with Young 50/50 he attacks the contest harder

              Young got toweled up though, can't afford that again against Port who killed us there in R23
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

              Formerly gogriff

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3832

                #8
                Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

                Originally posted by boydogs
                English has been better in the ruck the last two weeks, but we haven't asked him to spend as much time there. It's like if he's the #1 ruck with 5 mins a quarter from Bruce he paces himself, but with Young 50/50 he attacks the contest harder

                Young got toweled up though, can't afford that again against Port who killed us there in R23
                Did he though? Yes beaten, but not to the point where McIrnerney was going to win the game off his own boot. YOung's role is to wear, nag contest and occaisionally get involved in a scoring chain. To me its a win if he break's even which he did on the night.

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                • Ozza
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6402

                  #9
                  Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  An obvious one to kick off.

                  Both first half’s we’ve just stuck around and not been blown away by the ‘more fancied team’. Absorbed the pressure, not been overwhelmed by the pressure and against Essendon led by 3 points at half time, against Lions 1 point at half time.

                  After half time we’ve run the games out well. Turned it on hard late against Essendon, and in the arm wrestle last night covered the ground and still had plenty of run to do enough to chalk up the win. Our fitness is clearly good.


                  So my take on this, if we can get the game against Port Adelaide close to half time (at worst), we’ve got the will to fight, cover the ground well and provide run when the pressure turns up late. So if it’s close at half time, our players have the capacity to run out the second half well.


                  What have you seen so far in the two finals applicable to the final this week?

                  Certain player numbers needed?
                  Team stats needed?
                  Ratings? ie Pressure?
                  Player times in sections of the ground?
                  Etc.
                  Although that has been the trend so far (first half/second half) - personally I don't think we can rely on this vs Port this week. Port are a very fit/strong side - well rested with barely any injuries. Whereas we've had a wet weather game followed by a very intense semi that went down to the wire - and have quite a few injury concerns. I think it is pretty key for us to get a great start, try quieten the crowd and hold on for dear life!

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                  • boydogs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5844

                    #10
                    Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

                    Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                    Did he though? Yes beaten, but not to the point where McIrnerney was going to win the game off his own boot. YOung's role is to wear, nag contest and occaisionally get involved in a scoring chain. To me its a win if he break's even which he did on the night.
                    They got 2 or 3 goals in a row from centre clearances, absolutely killer in a final. Young only played 50% game time and didn't ruck much at all after half time
                    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                    Formerly gogriff

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #11
                      Re: Key Finals Numbers You’ve Seen

                      In three cut throat final, we’ve conceded 21 Goals in total. Or an average of just 7 Goals. (Dees average 7.5)

                      Team defence in overdrive. Especially with Keath not playing last night.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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