Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

Even Adam Morgan beat the Fev comprehensively back in 2004 at Princes Park - he generally hasn't fired a shot against us. Morris will be itching to make immediate amends for being beaten on Saturday against Steve Johnson.

Morris struggled on him preseason at Princes Park - not sure its the best matchup. I am leaning towards thinking Lake, but they can always start with Morris and change if need be.

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

Morris struggled on him preseason at Princes Park - not sure its the best matchup. I am leaning towards thinking Lake, but they can always start with Morris and change if need be.

Agree there. We must stop the supply to Fev.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

Morris struggled on him preseason at Princes Park - not sure its the best matchup. I am leaning towards thinking Lake, but they can always start with Morris and change if need be.

Carlton had 3 extra players that afternoon & they rotated their midfielders accordingly. We couldn't keep up. Put pressure on the ball carrier so pass can't be hit lace out.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

(And its the Nonsene And Bullsh*t Cup..take almost nothing from it)

[1eyedog]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

The big Shag, yes a very enigmatic player and I suspect Lake will go to him. While others have suggested Morris will go to him as Shag gets most of his kicks on the lead the Blues also bomb it long to him as he is so strong one on one. I don't think Morris can cut the mustard on Shag in the strength department so hoping Lake can match him well in that department. Lake is no bunny over 20 metres either and remember Shag rarely goes outside the 50 which will suit Lake.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

Prove me wrong then.

Don't need to prove you wrong. You do that for yourself with your comments about Lake

Lake can pick up Hartlett and try not to make a fool of himself. If Williams plays maybe Lake goes forward?

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Here is the current club B&F of whom, you hope doesn't make a fool of himself against a nobody.

Of whom, despite the fact that he wins the B&F at full back you suggest moves to full forward.

Your suggestion that he is poor covering the lead is further evidence of your "wrongness" No full back will ever cover the perfect pass to the leading forward, likewise no full back will cover the pass taken by his opponent when diving forward as happened on Saturday.

David Darcy commented last weekend that in his view Lake is the most important player in the side. In my view he was not far off the mark.

No, he did not have a good game on Saturday but he had plenty of mates. When the ball comes in at the speed and regularity that it did against Geelong all backman are placed under immense pressure including Morris who had a bigger shocker that Lake.

The rest of us put this aside as a once only - you clearly have a blinkered and thoroughly incorrect view of the skills that Lake brings to the side

[Mantis]

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Here is the current club B&F of whom, you hope doesn't make a fool of himself against a nobody.

In a team that hit the self destruct button. Not taking anything anyway from Brian as he had a very good year, but it was a pretty soft B&F to win due to the fact that quite a few of our best players were injured or unfit

The top 5 for this year's B&F would probably include Cooney, Murphy, Aker & Cross. All were injured or under-done last year.

Your suggestion that he is poor covering the lead is further evidence of your "wrongness" No full back will ever cover the perfect pass to the leading forward, likewise no full back will cover the pass taken by his opponent when diving forward as happened on Saturday.

David Darcy commented last weekend that in his view Lake is the most important player in the side. In my view he was not far off the mark.

No, he did not have a good game on Saturday but he had plenty of mates. When the ball comes in at the speed and regularity that it did against Geelong all backman are placed under immense pressure including Morris who had a bigger shocker that Lake.

The rest of us put this aside as a once only - you clearly have a blinkered and thoroughly incorrect view of the skills that Lake brings to the side

I wasn't saying Lake wasn't an important player just that he struggles on players who lead strongly up the field. Lake is very good in a man on man contest or when or in a pack situation where has the great ability to read the flight of the ball and take a defensive mark. He is also very good when he can fly for the ball as a 3rd man up. He lead the league in marks from the opposition because of these skills.

All I said was that he struggles against players who can lead as half the time Brian seems to be off in 'fairy land' when his opponent is starting a lead.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

In a year when we played poorly, the full back is the one player under constant pressure. It's easy being a good full-back in a good side - look at Rutten.

For Lake to win the B&F in these circumstances is a very creditable performance.

You're comments are disingenuous in the extreme. As was the comment regarding him playing on Hartlett

[Mantis]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

In a year when we played poorly, the full back is the one player under constant pressure. It's easy being a good full-back in a good side - look at Rutten.

For Lake to win the B&F in these circumstances is a very creditable performance.

You're comments are disingenuous in the extreme. As was the comment regarding him playing on Hartlett

Can you please give examples of when Lake or Harris has beaten player's who predominately rely on there ability to take marks on the lead?

From my observations I would have thought that Morris usually picks up this type of player (Lloyd, Fevola) whereas Lake generally picks up the slightly bigger/ lumbering forward.

I am not saying that Lake isn't a good player or an important player, just that he has his limitations.

And furthermore the Hartlett comment was an off the cuff remark. If Lake plays on Hartlett I expect him to beat him comfortably in marking duels and work off him such to give Morris a hand in containing Fevola. I think this is the type of role in which Lake prospers and therefore is more influential in helping the teams fortunes.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

Every full forward looks to lead as a part of their armoury including the lumbering types as you call them.

Thompson, Gehrig, Rocca all seek to take advantage on the lead. If Lake was unable to cope with this as you suggest, he would not be the full back and never would have won a B&F.

You categorise him as one-dimensional. I think that's wrong. I believe him to be a fine player and an excellent full back.

Obviously we will agree to disagree.

[ledge]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

All you have to do with Fisher is drag him more than 15 metres from goals and he wont make the distance.
Has to be the worst kick in the league.
Oops i better be careful, rumour is he is trade bait, we might take him!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

Dale Morris has to be the match up for Fev. Has been succesful in the past.

How does Fev get most of his goals? From marks on the lead, so it's about pace of the mark, not strength. Morris has pace to burn.

Yeah, there's no point trying another player on him when we already have a proven performer- I don't think he's kicked multiple goals on Dale ever.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

All you have to do with Fisher is drag him more than 15 metres from goals and he wont make the distance.
Has to be the worst kick in the league.
Oops i better be careful, rumour is he is trade bait, we might take him!

How bad was that shot in the first quarter last week against Sydney? Hideous

[ledge]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

How bad was that shot in the first quarter last week against Sydney? Hideous

My mate is a Carlton supporter he told me last year he is a shocking kick, since then I have kept an eye on him, last weeks kick is not rare, he does it at least once a game!
A jam tin is too big for him to get over and he couldnt hit a silo from 15 metres.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Round 17 player focus-Brendan Fevola

I agree that Morris is the man to take Fev this week. If Williams comes in I wouldn't actually mind seeing Lake have a proper run up forward just to see if he can play the swingman role.

Hopefully the game isn't an open shoot out, we need to congest the midfield and not give Carlton any space, if they have space, Fev could have a field day.