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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15234

    Re: Assistant Coaches

    Anyone heard what is happening with the extra $500K in the soft cap?

    Was mentioned on this board that Smith would be leaving the dogs, but I've heard nothing more of this.

    The supposed August 1st deadline has been and gone.

    Is it safe to assume we will be entering 2023 with the same assistant coach set up?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44411

      Re: Assistant Coaches

      Originally posted by azabob
      Anyone heard what is happening with the extra $500K in the soft cap?

      Was mentioned on this board that Smith would be leaving the dogs, but I've heard nothing more of this.

      The supposed August 1st deadline has been and gone.

      Is it safe to assume we will be entering 2023 with the same assistant coach set up?
      I don't think we should assume we will have the same coaching structure as this year.
      500K extra in the department won't stretch as far as we would want though especially when you consider the people who took pay cuts a couple of years back and stuck with us probably deserve something heading back their way now that the coffers have been topped up.
      My understanding is that the recruiting department is now more or less just 3 or 4 people supported by volunteers and there were also cuts to the strength and conditioning team.

      I would suggest we will get one more assistant coach and a couple of part timers for the coaches team and the balance should be invested in the strength and conditioning team and some behind the scenes support staff.

      There will be some changes but it's unlikely to be back to something like we had before.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11057

        Re: Assistant Coaches

        Originally posted by azabob
        Anyone heard what is happening with the extra $500K in the soft cap?

        Was mentioned on this board that Smith would be leaving the dogs, but I've heard nothing more of this.

        The supposed August 1st deadline has been and gone.

        Is it safe to assume we will be entering 2023 with the same assistant coach set up?
        Isn't the August 1 date just when the coaches have to be informed if they will be retained? Doesn't mean it is public knowledge.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15234

          Re: Assistant Coaches

          Originally posted by Axe Man
          Isn't the August 1 date just when the coaches have to be informed if they will be retained? Doesn't mean it is public knowledge.
          True, things like this normally leak out though.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44411

            Re: Assistant Coaches

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            Isn't the August 1 date just when the coaches have to be informed if they will be retained? Doesn't mean it is public knowledge.
            I'm sure I heard Eddie mention it last week that there is now some flexibility with that date.
            As Axe pointed out clubs might already have talked to their assistants about what the future looks like for them.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Nuggety Back Pocket
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2064

              Re: Assistant Coaches

              Originally posted by azabob
              Sanderson is clearly talented and we would be an experienced addition.

              I wonder if we could pry Dean Cox out of Sydney?
              Troy Chaplin is the dees defensive coach as another option.
              I would love to get Joel Corey back or left field let’s poach Jimmy Bartel from the giants board
              We should never have lost both Joel Corey and Dale Morris at the same time. Matthew Boyd now at Fremantle should be a top priority.
              These three would greatly strengthen, our MC and as all are former Premiership players would greatly strengthen our Assistants further weakened by the loss of Hansen and King to Carlton and GCS. Given our rapid fall away this year, this needs to be a priority for the likes of Luke Darcy and Chris Grant in conjunction with Luke Beveridge to address.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44411

                Re: Assistant Coaches

                I wonder if we are in the market now looking for another Assistant or two as there was some speculation that Rohan Smith might be moving away from his role?

                There must be some ambitious assistant coaches that would benefit learning from Bevo.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66298

                  Re: Assistant Coaches

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  I wonder if we are in the market now looking for another Assistant or two as there was some speculation that Rohan Smith might be moving away from his role?

                  There must be some ambitious assistant coaches that would benefit learning from Bevo.
                  You would think if we approached Leon, that we are looking
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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11161

                    Re: Assistant Coaches

                    Ben Rutten had a strong CV as defensive line coach at Richmond prior to joining Essendon. He would be worth a chat to take over from Smith (assuming he is leaving) as defensive coach, especially considering Essendon will be paying any differential in 2023 between what we might offer him and the 600k he already has under contract next year.

                    Some coaches have a ceiling and cannot make the transition to senior coach, it shouldn't taint their abilities at assistant level. The Hanger is a toxic place to work with the coteries and the old network doing all the politicking in the background. Not to mention players dictating game style on the run mid season like they did this year.
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                    • Bulldog Revolution
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3924

                      Re: Assistant Coaches

                      The other angle out of Essendon that sits with what we do is Gia - hiring known commodities who have good relationships with people within the organisation etc.

                      If Essendon clear house of all their assistants then that leaves him looking for a role. We would appear to have space in a more senior assistant capacity.

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11057

                        Re: Assistant Coaches

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        Ben Rutten had a strong CV as defensive line coach at Richmond prior to joining Essendon. He would be worth a chat to take over from Smith (assuming he is leaving) as defensive coach, especially considering Essendon will be paying any differential in 2023 between what we might offer him and the 600k he already has under contract next year.

                        Some coaches have a ceiling and cannot make the transition to senior coach, it shouldn't taint their abilities at assistant level. The Hanger is a toxic place to work with the coteries and the old network doing all the politicking in the background. Not to mention players dictating game style on the run mid season like they did this year.
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44411

                          Re: Assistant Coaches

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                          The other angle out of Essendon that sits with what we do is Gia - hiring known commodities who have good relationships with people within the organisation etc.

                          If Essendon clear house of all their assistants then that leaves him looking for a role. We would appear to have space in a more senior assistant capacity.
                          I think he went there to further expand his senior coaching opportunities but if Hird, Solomon and McVeigh are heading back he might be the odd one out.

                          I wonder if he would be interested in returning? He probably should look at another club.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Bulldog Revolution
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3924

                            Re: Assistant Coaches

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I think he went there to further expand his senior coaching opportunities but if Hird, Solomon and McVeigh are heading back he might be the odd one out.

                            I wonder if he would be interested in returning? He probably should look at another club.
                            That might be his preference, but we could also be aggressive if hes what we want - and its a potential premiership group he could be involved with

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44411

                              Re: Assistant Coaches

                              How do you think would Brendon Goddard go as a development coach or even as an assistant coach?
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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11852

                                Re: Assistant Coaches

                                For all the pointing jokes we made he was rated decently highly for his leadership skills wasn't he? Boyd had similar tendencies and seems to have made a good coach too so maybe there's something there.
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