Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11962

    #211
    Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

    Originally posted by ledge
    Difference is Darcy is already a better kick.
    As in set shot? Yeah nah not convinced on that yet. Danniher aint great necessarily but Darcy has missed some shockers IIRC. Time will tell though it's still early. Can't say his technique is reassuring as you watch him approach goal.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • Uninformed
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2023
      • 1002

      #212
      Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

      Originally posted by Testekill
      The young man is a Unicorn, Forward-Ruck is a hard position to play with not a lot of standout players capable of both roles so to have really good ruckcraft and be dangerous in the forward 50 is very rare.
      And can play back as a bonus.

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      • Uninformed
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2023
        • 1002

        #213
        Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

        Originally posted by ledge
        And he can go back.
        Sorry. Just saw this. Great minds..

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        • Uninformed
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2023
          • 1002

          #214
          Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

          Originally posted by mighty_west
          Great to get two Rising Stars in two week and hopefully Sanders isn't far away from getting a nod, you know there must be something special there with Sam Darcy when Leigh Matthews who very rarely has anything positive to say about the Bulldogs comes out and labels Sam the next big thing.

          It's interesting that when drafted he was playing back but was always a forward ruck before that draft year and he also see's himself as a ruckman first then forward, i know i thought he was a forward who gave a chop out in the ruck as he looks so natural up forward but either way, he's a beauty.

          Looking back to when Buddy and Roughy were dominating for the Hawks up forward and that final where they blew us out of the water especially at the G, wheres those two but especially Roughead would take the ball at the highest point and we had no answer for it, we didn't have that luxury in our forward line but with Sam now, that highest point is 208cm plus given his high reach, we even saw that on the weekend against two Cats players one being Tom Stewart both right in the contest but neither could get near him, it was just magnificent to see and will only get better.
          That was such a great contested mark. Hardly ever see that these days.

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          • Uninformed
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2023
            • 1002

            #215
            Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

            Originally posted by mighty_west
            Absolutely, it's both positioning and height which why i think he just looks a natural up forward, a lot of times height is grossly overrated because a 200cm plus spud is still a spud, but with Darce it gives him that massive advantage with that skillset and height with taking the ball at the highest point.
            And his ability to hold position and still win a tap or a mark is amazing for his young and still slight frame.

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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5628

              #216
              Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

              Originally posted by ledge
              Difference is Darcy is already a better kick.
              and I think smarter overall.
              Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5628

                #217
                Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                Originally posted by hujsh
                As in set shot? Yeah nah not convinced on that yet. Danniher aint great necessarily but Darcy has missed some shockers IIRC. Time will tell though it's still early. Can't say his technique is reassuring as you watch him approach goal.
                I am very much reassured by the fact that he has a consistent technique that improves the percentages in actually having a consistent result.
                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10252

                  #218
                  Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                  I know there was some commentary on his ruck work last weekend (which is going to be WIP for another few years I suspect) he was able to hold his own on most occasions and the upshot of his marking ability inside F50 is worth it.

                  He’s a rising star, no doubt.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • MrMahatma
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3981

                    #219
                    Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    IIRC Rocket said in Darcy's draft year that while there isn't a perfect comparison, the player he could most liken Darcy to was Joe Danniher. I don't know if he's quite that agile but just being pretty agile as a 208cm ruck/forward is already huge.
                    Rocket also said Darcy would be a better player than Daniher.

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                    • mighty_west
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3508

                      #220
                      Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                      and I think smarter overall.
                      Yeah anyone that sprays it as often as Daniher from long range and have other better options closer to goals then smile and laugh everytime he misses like he just can't believe it missed, i'm so glad i'm not a Brissy supporter.

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                      • 54Bulldog16
                        Rookie List
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 83

                        #221
                        Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                        When does the next Darcy father/son come through? Is he tracking to be anywhere near Sam’s ability?

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14551

                          #222
                          Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                          Are we tracking to have the most father/sons in the last ten years ?
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22150

                            #223
                            Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                            Some comparisons for Sam against other young gun KPFs and a highly rated second ruck at the same age:

                            Ben King



                            Darcy leads B. King in disposals, marks, tackles and hitouts, but is 0.1 behind in goals at 2.0 per game.

                            Max King



                            A bit closer in disposals and marks, Darcy again leads in tackles and hitouts. M. King 0.1 goals a game behind him at 1.9

                            Aaron Naughton



                            A difficult one to compare due to Naughton's ankle injury that year and COVID games being shorter. But it shows Darcy well ahead in all areas, outside of disposal efficiency. Below is the 2019 comparison.

                            Close on disposals, even on marks, Darcy ahead on tackles, Naughton averages 1.4 goals a game.

                            JUH



                            Pretty close on disposals and marks with Darcy ahead on tackles and 0.5 more goals per game.

                            Luke Jackson



                            Both play second ruck, and Jackson claims more disposals, tackles and hitouts, but lags behind Darcy by 1.5 goals a game.


                            No real point to any of this, I was just curious to see if we're getting ahead of ourselves in thinking he's a freak. Not sure I've seen anyone come into the game and be an awesome second ruck who hits the scoreboard, but Darcy is averaging 7.3 hitouts a game so is quickly getting there. No idea how far this lad can go.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6934

                              #224
                              Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                              Nathan Buckley. Interesting listen on Sam Darcy. "This kid could be the best player in the competition as soon as nexy year".

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45567

                                #225
                                Re: Sam Darcy:- Welcome to the Western Bulldogs

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                Nathan Buckley. Interesting listen on Sam Darcy. "This kid could be the best player in the competition as soon as nexy year".

                                https://x.com/1116sen/status/1825370854923923570
                                While I love the sentiment this is the same guy that said Treloar wouldn't cope with his partner and daughter being interstate.
                                He actually needs a couple of kidney punches.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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