WB Game Day V Adelaide Crows R6 2022

[angelopetraglia]

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Have we ever had a healthy list under Bevo?

It is a good question. I can't recall where we have had a blessed run. Premiership year we had injuries left, right and centre. Grand Final year we lost Bruce, lost English, Treloar and Dunkley for big stretches too.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Bevo looked defeated in the presser. Paraphrasing.

-They strangled us. Credit to the Crows.
-We handballed one too many times inviting pressure.
-Soundly beaten in the inside 50s which isn't normal for this team.
-We don't have a healthy list. We don't have too many too choose from.
-We need to put time into our inexperienced players (McComb, McNeil, Marra, Scott) to develop them further.
-Training is not an issue but we will keep reviewing. Keath was late in the game. Timmy was the last kick of the training session. We just believe we have been a bit unlucky.
-Mitch Wallis was out due to his mother in law being hit by a car and unforntuantely passing away on Thursday. Also, his wife Emily is a week overdue. Just tragic for Mitch and the family.
-Travis Varcoe's mum also passed away. It has been a difficult time for the club.
-Stef should be able to back up week after week. Sweet has been our with the virus and concussion and therefore hasn't been in the mix for selection.

Bevo has been searching for excuses all year.

Do injuries hurt? Sure, but they aren't the sole reason for our diabolical start to the year.

Do the tragedies above really impact our entire list? Understanding they are close, and the tragedies are real, but I'm not sure they are the reason we still can't execute a basic skill.

Who has consistently performed this year? English, Dale, maybe Macrae and Smith (their turnovers kill us), Gardner... About it.

So the question is, why are our best players all out of form and not playing well? Bont has been ineffective to put it nicely (honestly think he's been dreadful for the most part), Daniel has been poor mostly, Dunkley/Libba ok in spurts, Naughton inconsistent (but not much help), Treloar ok I guess... But realistically It's not good enough from the leaders of our playing list.

If we were losing games because our depth just wasn't there, fine, but I don't think that's the case. We've got some stat padders at the moment which isn't helping the team.

[azabob]

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TBB, start that thread. Reality is Keath, Williams and Hunter have also been well down on form.

[Mantis]

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If we were losing games because our depth just wasn't there, fine, but I don't think that's the case. We've got some stat padders at the moment which isn't helping the team.

Tell me more about our stat padders?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Tell me more about our stat padders?

I touched on it in the thread I just created a little, and it might be an unpopular opinion, but Jack Macrae heads the list. He's a GREAT player but he's been grinding my gears this year because he often gets the unnecessary 1-2 in the same passage of play without actually doing anything productive with the ball. He's had 26 today but he was as ineffective as you could ever try to be.

You could argue our entire midfield is guilty of it (Libba, Dunkley, Hunter, Smith). We flick the ball around and often get multiple possessions in the one chain without hurting the opposition. It needs to stop because we often aren't taking ground and as a result, connection with our forwards is... let's not even talk about it.

[FrediKanoute]

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Taking a step back and looking at it there is a lot this group is dealing with and to be honest the results reflect this. Not sure how you can resolve and reboot, but that is what they have to do. Do it for Lachie; Do if for Wally; Do it for Varcoe. Its round 6, we are 2 games out of the 8. They can still salvage and 3 to 4 weeks of good form can change a lot.

[Mantis]

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I touched on it in the thread I just created a little, and it might be an unpopular opinion, but Jack Macrae heads the list. He's a GREAT player but he's been grinding my gears this year because he often gets the unnecessary 1-2 in the same passage of play without actually doing anything productive with the ball. He's had 26 today but he was as ineffective as you could ever try to be.

You could argue our entire midfield is guilty of it (Libba, Dunkley, Hunter, Smith). We flick the ball around and often get multiple possessions in the one chain without hurting the opposition. It needs to stop because we often aren't taking ground and as a result, connection with our forwards is... let's not even talk about it.

Jack isn’t a great player… I judge him more harshly than others , but he pretty much has *!*!*!*! all hurt factor.

If he’s only kicking it 9 times out of 26 touches she can learn to play in a FP instead of Bont.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Adelaide Crows R6 2022

I touched on it in the thread I just created a little, and it might be an unpopular opinion, but Jack Macrae heads the list. He's a GREAT player but he's been grinding my gears this year because he often gets the unnecessary 1-2 in the same passage of play without actually doing anything productive with the ball. He's had 26 today but he was as ineffective as you could ever try to be.

You could argue our entire midfield is guilty of it (Libba, Dunkley, Hunter, Smith). We flick the ball around and often get multiple possessions in the one chain without hurting the opposition. It needs to stop because we often aren't taking ground and as a result, connection with our forwards is... let's not even talk about it.

A bit harsh on Macrae. The kick he hit up in the first quarter to Marra was elite. He has been doing a lot more of that this season too. He can find angles and precsision with his kicking.

However, you can argue we are trying to carry too many mids who only have one gear (e.g. Libba, Bont, Dunks and Macrae) and therefore we can really struggle on the spread when the clearance doesn't go our way.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Jack isn’t a great player… I judge him more harshly than others , but he pretty much has *!*!*!*! all hurt factor.

If he’s only kicking it 9 times out of 26 touches she can learn to play in a FP instead of Bont.

It's an issue because Macrae, Dunkley, Libba and Hunter are all the same. Libba at his best could hurt you, but his hands/vision/decision making is borderline rubbish now.

I still think Macrae is a great player but in our system right now, he's just not damaging. Would the opposition be thinking 'we need to stop Macrae' ... Nope.

Thinking about this particular game in more detail, one thing that infuriated me was our propensity to win the ball in our back half and then chip it backwards 15-20m to a spare man who had nowhere else to go. If there's a switch on, go for it, but otherwise all we're doing is CONCEEDING territory. It's idiotic and we did it time and time again.

[jeemak]

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I haven't watched the game yet, but I reckon losing two very entrenched assistants plus injuries has completely *!*!*!*!ed with us.

Then you consider we lost another the previous year and it's an off-ground rebuild that's taking place and without key players things are falling apart.

It doesn't take much, remember 2007 after the promise of the previous two years?

[G-Mo77]

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We replaced all of them though. Did we make the wrong selections? I don't know about you but I was hardly doing cartwheels when we signed Webb and Spangher.

[Missing Dog]

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It's an issue because Macrae, Dunkley, Libba and Hunter are all the same. Libba at his best could hurt you, but his hands/vision/decision making is borderline rubbish now.

I still think Macrae is a great player but in our system right now, he's just not damaging. Would the opposition be thinking 'we need to stop Macrae' ... Nope.

Thinking about this particular game in more detail, one thing that infuriated me was our propensity to win the ball in our back half and then chip it backwards 15-20m to a spare man who had nowhere else to go. If there's a switch on, go for it, but otherwise all we're doing is CONCEEDING territory. It's idiotic and we did it time and time again.

We tried kicking long down the line to their extra defender on numerous occasions without success. What's the solution?

[Hotdog60]

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Could it be possible that the Crows did their homework and stopped our main movers. Yes we played crap but the crows were in our faces a lot of the time and as its been mentioned we don't have a lot of pace to spread from the contest which makes it easier to congest the ball.
Libba looked good out there but his handpasses out of congestion was non existent and most of his possessions were quick kicks to no one in particular.
That kick from Caleb that ended with the Walker goal late in the game did he have to pick off too much because of a lack of options further up the ground.
We did a lot wrong but also the Crows did a lot right and if their kicking had been better we would have been blown away by a lot more.
We are out of form and the poor start to the season could be putting extra pressure on performing as the season is slowly slipping away.

[GVGjr]

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Good call Hotdog. They really did their homework and we lacked the answers.

[Bornadog]

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We tried kicking long down the line to their extra defender on numerous occasions without success. What's the solution?

Other than Dale, we are still lacking run off the backline. Richards needs to use his pace more and Williams is struggling at the moment. Duryea is a great kick but he doesn't run and bounce like say a Melbourne does. Caleb is more hit your targets (well most of the time) and get the ball going.

We have to find a way to launch quicker from the back half and catch the opposition backline out.