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  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 8896

    Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

    This is the Round 1, 2022 edition of the weekly Bankers and Anchors thread. Once the game against Melbourne is concluded post your nominations for:

    The Bankers = 3 guys/aspects of the game that we banked on to do the right thing during the game
    The Anchors = 3 guys/aspects of the game that weighed us down by their errors or poor play

    Please limit it to no more than three of each player or aspect of the game, but feel free to make honourable/dishonourable mentions. As usual try to make it constructive criticism.

    Try and restrict it to individual players rather than aspects of the overall match - I will allow more freedom now as the thread seems to be going down more of the aspects of the game path so you can have 3 for each made up of aspects of the game and individual players.

    The thread is named in honour of a popular WOOF Contributor, The Banker, who passed away on 22/04/2012 after a six month battle with cancer.
  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 8896

    #2
    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

    Bankers

    1. Tim English - this is the baseline for what we need him to do this year. He looks stronger and more willing to use his frame to good effect.
    2. Bailey Smith - considering the spotlight he's been under since his sterling finals series in 2021 I was unsure how he'd handle things this year. He looked very committed and physical in close.
    3. Naughts - boy oh boy did we need him to stand up, and he did. Looked much better shooting for goal too. Let's hope it keeps up

    Anchors

    1. VDM - really disappointed with his decision making and skill execution.
    2. Schache - funny how a couple of key moments can shape how performance is viewed. If he had've not played on after marking, or not fluffed a key mark in defence late, he could've been seen as having a good game. Unfortunately he just doesn't look to be getting over his inability to put consistent performances together.
    3. Keath. His worst performance in our colours, just invisible the whole night. Doubt he'll put in another like that. We're in trouble if he continues to struggle.

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    • SonofScray
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 4214

      #3
      Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

      B

      BAZ - lit the spark and was one of very few who had the missing ingredient on show.
      ENGLISH - more prevalent as the game wore on, big effort, good presence in at least two out of three phases of the game.
      NAUGHTON - electric, get him the ball more often and make better use of it when we don’t, please.

      A

      VDM - deer in headlights, headless chook sort of stuff. I love this kid, so the performance annoyed me more than perhaps it deserved to. Just want him to give us a bigger glimpse of his best footy, which is this hard running, physically robust, aggressive forwards game.
      WEIGHTMAN - do more
      SCHACHE - nearly had a big positive impact, instead a massive negative one. Sadly, was lacking in his intensity. I never bag him about that, but it was really on show. He doesn’t have to be Tarzan but he can’t be Jane either (forgive the gendered analogy, I’ll think up a better one and edit at some stage).
      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14868

        #4
        Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

        B

        Baz - 11 tackles. Enough said
        Macrae - so consistent
        Naughts - worth the membership cash just to watch him alone

        A

        Schache - had an absolute mare
        Williams - breaking the AFL record for scores from turnovers. We lose by 4 and a bit goals, he handed them 6
        Weightman - please stick to the basics for a bit. You're not actually Flea Weightman. I'd take an assist every week rather than a MOTY contender every second month
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3702

          #5
          Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

          Bankers

          1. Our Best Football - can carve up the very best teams.It is slick, fast, highly skilled and exhilarating to watch.

          2. Tim English - Up against the best ruck combination and was outstanding. Has he arrived as number 1 ruck? He certainly presented a strong argument to say so.

          3. Astro - So glad to see him scoring goals in general play. Hope he can keep this up & not rely solely on scoring from the big mark.

          Anchors

          1. Small Forwards - I have been banging on about this for several years that we have not been recruiting enough specialist small/medium forwards. We rely on hybrid midfielders to fulfil this important role. Its a flawed strategy. We are terrible at ground level in the forward line. Rarely do our small forwards crumb off the packs or feed off the high flyers like Naughton. No one front and square. The only times that seems to happen is when one of the A grade midfielders is there like Bont, Smith. There is not enough opportunistic flair and goal nous. The hybrid small are not quick enough getting ball to boot or just don't see the slight chances. I also bring into question the forward coaching. Why doesn't Weightman get front and square more often instead of flying for everything with a strike rate comparable to Zeph Skinner. He is clever enough and skilful enough but he needs to bring more to his game than going for mark of the year. There is a goal or two a game for him if he works off the big guys.

          2. Decide what to do with Schache - It's time to be decisive. Is he a forward? Is he a defender? He even had a run on the wing. Without Bruce I think we need him to be forward. He is our no.2 best option right now with English in the ruck & Jamarra & Darcy not ready. We have Gardner & Cordy for the backline. I think settling the team would be a good idea.

          3. Settle the back 6 - Following on from the above I think this is very important. With Richards & Crozier back in the loop to add to our fella of small/mediums along with Gardner, Cordy, O'Brien & Schache in our tall mix to support Keath. I thought last year our defence worked well with Keath & Gardner when he was available. We need Duryea back in there (is he injured?) Perhaps we can accommodate this a bit by moving Williams up to a wing. I'm thinking Keath, Gardner, Dale, Daniel, Richards, Crozier/O'Brien, Duryea.
          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66119

            #6
            Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            Why doesn't Weightman get front and square more often instead of flying for everything with a strike rate comparable to Zeph Skinner. He is clever enough and skilful enough but he needs to bring more to his game than going for mark of the year. There is a goal or two a game for him if he works off the big guys.
            This made me laugh, but you are absolutely right. The way he plays he thinks he is a mini version of Naughton - for god sake, play close to Naughton and if Naughton drops the ball, pounce on it and snap a goal.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66119

              #7
              Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

              Bankers

              1. Macrae - he works tirelessly to get us in the game. Had a couple of clangers with his kicks, but 39 disposals, and under constant pressure you would expect that.

              2. Bazza - improving every game, so strong for his age.

              3. Tim English - Looks stronger again and is starting to mature, hopefully he can keep his form up for the rest of the year. Sign him up now.

              Anchors

              1. We don't seem to have any run and carry anymore. The backline needs to be more attacking and not just pop the ball in the air to no one in particular. Stop panicking, find someone down the ground. Ed, use your pace, Williams, stop trying to take on everyone.

              2. Small forwards - Weightman, VDM - need more from you.

              3. Schache/Cordy - we have issues here, they need to improve quickly.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15322

                #8
                Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Bankers

                1. Macrae - he works tirelessly to get us in the game. Had a couple of clangers with his kicks, but 39 disposals, and under constant pressure you would expect that.

                2. Bazza - improving every game, so strong for his age.

                3. Tim English - Looks stronger again and is starting to mature, hopefully he can keep his form up for the rest of the year. Sign him up now.

                Anchors

                1. We don't seem to have any run and carry anymore. The backline needs to be more attacking and not just pop the ball in the air to no one in particular. Stop panicking, find someone down the ground. Ed, use your pace, Williams, stop trying to take on everyone.

                2. Small forwards - Weightman, VDM - need more from you.

                3. Schache/Cordy - we have issues here, they need to improve quickly.
                Why do you want something different from Williams compared to our other small/medium sized defenders?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66119

                  #9
                  Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Why do you want something different from Williams compared to our other small/medium sized defenders?
                  I don't want him to get caught holding the ball. You watch how many times he does taking that extra step when he can't make a quick decision. It cost us dearly on Wednesday, and does in most games.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15322

                    #10
                    Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I don't want him to get caught holding the ball. You watch how many times he does taking that extra step when he can't make a quick decision. It cost us dearly on Wednesday, and does in most games.
                    It's a fine margin because his ability to navigate his way through traffic makes him a valuable asset within our team... he got the balance wrong on Wednesday night, but he still needs to play to his strengths which is to take on the tackler.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66119

                      #11
                      Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      It's a fine margin because his ability to navigate his way through traffic makes him a valuable asset within our team... he got the balance wrong on Wednesday night, but he still needs to play to his strengths which is to take on the tackler.
                      Well he was an Anchor this week
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • SonofScray
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4214

                        #12
                        Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Well he was an Anchor this week
                        High risk, high reward sort of player.

                        Usually he is more miserly with his defensive work when he doesn't have the footy though.
                        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14868

                          #13
                          Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          It's a fine margin because his ability to navigate his way through traffic makes him a valuable asset within our team... he got the balance wrong on Wednesday night, but he still needs to play to his strengths which is to take on the tackler.
                          He broke the AFL record for conceding scores from turnover (6 goals) - that's absolutely anchor-worthy
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15322

                            #14
                            Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            He broke the AFL record for conceding scores from turnover (6 goals) - that's absolutely anchor-worthy
                            I'm not saying he wasn't anchor worthy as he had a poor game by his standards, more disagreeing with bad's comment that we don't have any defenders who take the game on with flair and dash and then criticised Williams who was attempting this and had some poor moments... you have to take the good with the bad when you play a high risk game and over the past couple of seasons Williams has had more good than bad.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66119

                              #15
                              Re: Bankers & Anchors: Rnd 1, 2022 vs Melbourne Demons

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              I'm not saying he wasn't anchor worthy as he had a poor game by his standards, more disagreeing with bad's comment that we don't have any defenders who take the game on with flair and dash and then criticised Williams who was attempting this and had some poor moments... you have to take the good with the bad when you play a high risk game and over the past couple of seasons Williams has had more good than bad.
                              Willams doesn't have flair and dash, well not with pace which is what we need. ED has to use his pace like a Melbourne team do.

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              He broke the AFL record for conceding scores from turnover (6 goals) - that's absolutely anchor-worthy
                              Worst than I thought, that is the game there
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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