Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15449

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

    Originally posted by MrMahatma
    Schache’s paper’s stamped now? Not playing KPD, not 3rd tall. Reckon he’s back in the queue again. Doesn’t get much leeway!
    Until he shows a harder edge to his game he isn't going to play much... and I'm ok with that.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18972

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Until he shows a harder edge to his game he isn't going to play much... and I'm ok with that.
      Can you this ever happening?

      I would assume it's been a big theme in his coaching for a while now, and it appears so foreign to him I can't ever see it happening.

      That dropped mark that led to the Fritsch goal may be the "moment" for him unfortunately.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15449

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Can you this ever happening?

        I would assume it's been a big theme in his coaching for a while now, and it appears so foreign to him I can't ever see it happening.

        That dropped mark that led to the Fritsch goal may be the "moment" for him unfortunately.
        No, I can't... Whilst ''hardness'' can improve in time, you pretty much have it or you don't and unfortunately for Josh he doesn't and it's the only thing holding him back because he is well above average for the other key facets required.

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        • Danjul
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 1624

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Until he shows a harder edge to his game he isn't going to play much... and I'm ok with that.
          I would be happy with that too but for seeing others run into form in the firsts. For example, Hannan got 4 disposals and 0 hitouts last week and is perfectly safe. He has hardly touched the ball this year- 20 possessions in total. Admittedly he will have a good game now and then but he has never been as consistent kicking goals as Schache (happy to be corrected on that)

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          • Danjul
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 1624

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            Can you this ever happening?

            I would assume it's been a big theme in his coaching for a while now, and it appears so foreign to him I can't ever see it happening.

            That dropped mark that led to the Fritsch goal may be the "moment" for him unfortunately.
            The team played badly- 80 turnovers and many led to Melbourne scoring. Only one Bulldog player gets named.

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10145

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

              We aren’t still caping for Schache are we? It’s nearing in on double digit chances after bitterly disappointing efforts. Maybe if he stopped choking in big moments that swing games it wouldn’t be so easy to scapegoat him.
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11186

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                Originally posted by Danjul
                The team played badly- 80 turnovers and many led to Melbourne scoring. Only one Bulldog player gets named.
                You must have missed the criticism of Bailey Williams and his subsequent axing from the team?

                I would love Schache to make it but there is no conspiracy, he has performed poorly time and time again. There is little use in comparing him to others like Hannan as we have no idea exactly what they are being asked to do and how their KPIs are being measured. I will give you a hint though - it's not just possessions, it's not the 1950s.

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                • BornInDroopSt'54
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 5269

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  You must have missed the criticism of Bailey Williams and his subsequent axing from the team?

                  I would love Schache to make it but there is no conspiracy, he has performed poorly time and time again. There is little use in comparing him to others like Hannan as we have no idea exactly what they are being asked to do and how their KPIs are being measured. I will give you a hint though - it's not just possessions, it's not the 1950s.
                  He played well in last years finals.
                  Footscray Football Republic.

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                  • Danjul
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1624

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    You must have missed the criticism of Bailey Williams and his subsequent axing from the team?

                    I would love Schache to make it but there is no conspiracy, he has performed poorly time and time again. There is little use in comparing him to others like Hannan as we have no idea exactly what they are being asked to do and how their KPIs are being measured. I will give you a hint though - it's not just possessions, it's not the 1950s.
                    I thought Williams had a poor game, but to drop him after 1 bad game after proving himself last season was unexpected.

                    If Hannah’s KPIs say 4 possessions is adequate then it is a good explanation of why we have been losing more home and away games than we are winning. We have won 7 of the last 16. That’s not a hint, it is a fact.

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11186

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                      Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                      He played well in last years finals.
                      I never said he didn't, strange comment.

                      He has played some good footy but interspersed with some really poor games where my assumption is he has failed to meet some non negotiables from the coaches and been dropped as a result. He will likely get another chance at some stage and I hope as much as anyone he seizes it.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66775

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                        Originally posted by Danjul
                        I thought Williams had a poor game, but to drop him after 1 bad game after proving himself last season was unexpected.

                        If Hannah’s KPIs say 4 possessions is adequate then it is a good explanation of why we have been losing more home and away games than we are winning. We have won 7 of the last 16. That’s not a hint, it is a fact.
                        9 of 16
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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14965

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                          It's moments like these that I truly wonder what we've been thinking about our KPD stocks over the last three years and particularly last off season.
                          I guess we think TOB can play KPD given we chased him.
                          Sam Darcy may well be the kid we develop there. I hope we find a stop gap to cover Keath's injuries.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Bulldog4life
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9607

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            9 of 16
                            Don't spoil a good story with the facts BAD.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18972

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                              Originally posted by Danjul
                              The team played badly- 80 turnovers and many led to Melbourne scoring. Only one Bulldog player gets named.
                              He wasn't the only one.

                              How did you think he played that night and in subsequent VFL games?
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11186

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Four v Richmond at The G

                                Originally posted by Danjul
                                I thought Williams had a poor game, but to drop him after 1 bad game after proving himself last season was unexpected.

                                If Hannah’s KPIs say 4 possessions is adequate then it is a good explanation of why we have been losing more home and away games than we are winning. We have won 7 of the last 16. That’s not a hint, it is a fact.
                                My point is clearly players have roles and certain expectations to meet that we are not privy to. Simply pointing to possessions every time you wish to make your case is flawed. Now you are claiming we are losing games because the coaches have no idea how to measure success? I reckon they might have a better idea than you and I.

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