Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5114

    #16
    Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

    Yeah I was pleased to see him work to be an option up the ground as he wasn't offering anything forward. If he can give that on days where it isn't clicking for him he becomes much less of a liability.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • ratsmac
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2009
      • 3975

      #17
      Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

      I think Cody is a victim of the fact we look to kick to Naughton most of the time. For a small leading forward he has to continually double back after leading to try be front and centre. We just don't seem to look for the best option in f50 imo.
      Everyone is up the ground these days with the defensive press so he's around. He is still finding his feet at senior level and just needs to learn how to stay involved more often.
      I get what your saying but like you said we have too mids as it is. It's worth a try but does he have the game nous to make the right decisions to set up forward entries?
      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
      Brian Fantana.

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      • DOG GOD
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jul 2007
        • 6557

        #18
        Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

        We are severely lacking genuine fwds. Cody looks like one so for mine, he stays in the f50
        I will never see #16 the same!!

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66840

          #19
          Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

          Originally posted by DOG GOD
          We are severely lacking genuine fwds. Cody looks like one so for mine, he stays in the f50
          Agree, 31 goals in 21 games. He is slowly getting back to form, after an interrupted preseason
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Danjul
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 1624

            #20
            Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
            Weightman got up the ground a little v Carlton and was better for it.

            14 touches and a goal.

            He still looks like a guy out of form that hasn't really touched the footy for... well, a while. But I thought his approach to the game was BETTER than it has been (it's been deplorable, to be honest).
            As the ball started coming out of the backline to Hunter Weightman ran (past me on the wing) and made perfect position just inside the 50m arc. He had no opponent.

            when Hunter marked the ball he looked towards CHB and held the game up. He eventually kicked to someone behind the centre who then kicked towards Weightman. Hunter never looked in Weightman’s direction. It is hard to learn the game when you are not actually in it.

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            • DOG GOD
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2007
              • 6557

              #21
              Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

              Originally posted by Danjul
              As the ball started coming out of the backline to Hunter Weightman ran (past me on the wing) and made perfect position just inside the 50m arc. He had no opponent.

              when Hunter marked the ball he looked towards CHB and held the game up. He eventually kicked to someone behind the centre who then kicked towards Weightman. Hunter never looked in Weightman’s direction. It is hard to learn the game when you are not actually in it.
              And Hunter has a knack or getting the ball, stopping, turning around, going sideways or backwards, and killing fwd momentum. If I was a fwd making space, Hunter would be the last person I’d want with the ball.
              I will never see #16 the same!!

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              • ratsmac
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2009
                • 3975

                #22
                Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                Originally posted by DOG GOD
                And Hunter has a knack or getting the ball, stopping, turning around, going sideways or backwards, and killing fwd momentum. If I was a fwd making space, Hunter would be the last person I’d want with the ball.
                This is what drives me nuts about Hunter. He's better under pressure when he doesn't have time to think. When he does have time he does exactly what you explained, so frustrating
                They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                Brian Fantana.

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5114

                  #23
                  Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                  Originally posted by DOG GOD
                  We are severely lacking genuine fwds. Cody looks like one so for mine, he stays in the f50
                  No one is suggesting he not play forward though? Just that playing purely in the forwardline he can be a bit of a non-factor, so does giving him the occasional circuit breaker move up field help his overall game.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • DOG GOD
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 6557

                    #24
                    Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                    Originally posted by soupman
                    No one is suggesting he not play forward though? Just that playing purely in the forwardline he can be a bit of a non-factor, so does giving him the occasional circuit breaker move up field help his overall game.
                    I understand, but with the way our fwd line is, I just don’t think we can afford it, even if it’s a small amount of time. If we had Bruce and a Gunston type in the mix then yeah, I would give him a few mins up field, but we just don’t have that luxury. Imo that is.
                    I will never see #16 the same!!

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15472

                      #25
                      Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                      Originally posted by DOG GOD
                      I understand, but with the way our fwd line is, I just don’t think we can afford it, even if it’s a small amount of time. If we had Bruce and a Gunston type in the mix then yeah, I would give him a few mins up field, but we just don’t have that luxury. Imo that is.
                      So the alternative is that when he isn’t getting his hands on the ball that he just anchors himself in F50 and loses confidence?

                      I thought he worked up the field much better against Carlton which is what we need to see more of from him…. As well as being dangerous and converting his opportunities when they come.

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                      • SonofScray
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4242

                        #26
                        Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                        For mine, I’d like to see him get on his bike more often and get up the ground, working hard back to be at the fall of the ball or pressing on the defence if they clean up. He looked his best doing that v Carlton. What I don’t want is him being the target for a contested mark in the middle of the ground, it’s too big an ask under pressure and fraught with danger, especially if he seeks out a bit of contact and the free never comes.
                        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15335

                          #27
                          Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                          I would assume his interrupted pre season wouldn’t be helping with his match fitness either.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • EasternWest
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10002

                            #28
                            Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                            Has provided outstanding forward pressure so far this year, his repeat efforts are incredible.
                            "It's over. It's all over."

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66840

                              #29
                              Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              Has provided outstanding forward pressure so far this year, his repeat efforts are incredible.
                              Gee he covered some ground chasing down the Swans backman.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18991

                                #30
                                Re: Why is Weightman "WELDED" to the Forward Line?

                                Originally posted by EasternWest
                                Has provided outstanding forward pressure so far this year, his repeat efforts are incredible.
                                There was one effort where he did about 5 repeat efforts/chase downs single handed and nearly beat 2 or 3 defenders.

                                His energy is contagious.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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