The Treloar trade : a retrospective

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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11850

    #31
    Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    There has been mixed reactions to Treloars move to the back line but credit to him as he seems to have handled it well.

    Do you think this is this a move we are likely to stick with next season or use from time to time? Or will he slot back into a wing or half forward role?
    I think he was giving us more than Daniel has this year. If Daniel is not making good decisions and picking through the zone then he's just slowing down our movement and Treloar's dash and longer kicking is of much more value to our rebound.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      #32
      Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

      We certainly missed Adam this week.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44736

        #33
        Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
        We certainly missed Adam this week.
        And it's likely we will miss him again next week.
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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18997

          #34
          Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

          I was contemplating our midfield after the game.

          Is it as good as everyone tells us?

          I think we've got one absolute A grader and there's little surprise that with him being down all year so has the side.

          Look at the last two weeks as a microcosm of the season.

          Bont had his best game against the Demons, we had our best result.
          This week he's injured early and the midfield is destroyed.

          I think Treloar is/was an A grader when he played midfield.

          I'd like to use the off season to get him back in there permanently.
          He gives us a point of difference with his pace and ability to separate along with Smith.

          Macrae could be used in a Brayshaw role as a defensive wing / half back.

          Only issue is his injury history for me.

          A core midfield of Bont, Libba, Treloar, Smith, Dunkley looks balanced to me.

          Edit : Libba is A grade/b+++
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15337

            #35
            Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

            GG I think it is very clear that our midfield as individuals are very good. When they have to work as a team; we are mid table.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44736

              #36
              Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

              I think our midfield is close to being excellent but we lack that lock down player that we could move in there when opposition sides are lifting.
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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18997

                #37
                Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                Originally posted by azabob
                GG I think it is very clear that our midfield as individuals are very good. When they have to work as a team; we are mid table.
                No doubt they're our strongest line, I do think however it still needs work.
                Very one paced and lack the top end talent of the best.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15337

                  #38
                  Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  No doubt they're are strongest line, I do think however it still needs work.
                  Very one paced and lack the top end talent of the best.
                  Strongest line or weakest link; very fine line.

                  Half a dozen clubs have a better midfield.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18997

                    #39
                    Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I think our midfield is close to being excellent but we lack that lock down player that we could move in there when opposition sides are lifting.
                    If you were tasked with improving it, what would you do GVG?
                    We clearly can't match it with the best for long enough.

                    Watching the Cats toy with us brought instant comparisons to the GF.

                    It's clearly now an issue.

                    Frightening we've never been good enough for long enough in seasons under Bevo to make top 4.

                    That's where you win flags from. If the Pies make it with that list... I dont know.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44736

                      #40
                      Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                      Originally posted by Grantysghost
                      If you were tasked with improving it, what would you do GVG?
                      We clearly can't match it with the best for long enough.

                      Watching the Cats toy with us brought instant comparisons to the GF.

                      It's clearly now an issue.

                      Frightening we've never been good enough for long enough in seasons under Bevo to make top 4.

                      That's where you win flags from. If the Pies make it with that list... I dont know.
                      I mentioned last year that a player like Hewett could bring a slightly improved defensive option for us and I do think we could find similar types or shape one of own players to play that sort of role from time to time.
                      I just don't think it's in our DNA for the way we want to set-up. We can look very good and a bit jaded depending on the how the game is panning out.
                      I'd really like to hear Marc Webb's view on what we might be able to do a bit differently and I'm sure it's a regular discussion between all the coaches. Rohan Smith must dread seeing the ball heading into our back line so quickly.
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                      • FrediKanoute
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3837

                        #41
                        Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                        Garcia and West to take more of a midfield role - they are definite points of difference to what we have at the moment. As great as Westy has beeen as a defensive forward, having him as the Libba relief in the midfield would be amazing. Garcia, could be anything, is the classic inside-outside mid.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44736

                          #42
                          Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                          Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                          Garcia and West to take more of a midfield role - they are definite points of difference to what we have at the moment. As great as Westy has beeen as a defensive forward, having him as the Libba relief in the midfield would be amazing. Garcia, could be anything, is the classic inside-outside mid.
                          Is Garcia capable of being a high possession winner or a solid defensive option on other teams mids? I'm not so sure.
                          I'm also not sure about West being a full time mid in the short term. He's done really well in the role he currently has but in time a move to the midfield on a more regular basis seems likely.
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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3875

                            #43
                            Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I think our midfield is close to being excellent but we lack that lock down player that we could move in there when opposition sides are lifting.
                            Dunkley should be that player, but he would pack his bags if he had to tag. Many of his teammates are they same.

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3875

                              #44
                              Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                              Just on Treloar he was talking on his podcast that Matty Boyd is a really good coach. It pricked my ears a little, thought it was worth mentioning.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44736

                                #45
                                Re: The Treloar trade : a retrospective

                                Originally posted by kruder
                                Dunkley should be that player, but he would pack his bags if he had to tag. Many of his teammates are they same.
                                I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps not every week but I think he would thrive on a challenge. We just don't like using the tagging option.

                                He could be leaving us having not been asked to do that
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