Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

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  • BornInDroopSt'54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 5176

    #31
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

    Nathan Brown suggests Bruce should go back with Juh and Naughton firing. I am open to it v Cats.
    Footscray Football Republic.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44338

      #32
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

      Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
      Nathan Brown suggests Bruce should go back with Juh and Naughton firing. I am open to it v Cats.
      It's a decent suggestion if he has the condition to get run around a bit.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7305

        #33
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        It's a decent suggestion if he has the condition to get run around a bit.
        That's the VFL backline you guys are talking about right?

        We would be a better side with Sweet giving us 5-mins per quarter and sitting on the bench than we are with Josh right now. I know I am not exactly the leader of the JB fan club but he isn't ready right now. It's hard coming back from a knee. I feel no ill-will towards him as it isn't his fault but he is not ready or prepared to play AFL footy.
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • EasternWest
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 9994

          #34
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

          Originally posted by mjp
          but he is not ready or prepared to play AFL footy.
          This is straight truth. Personal feelings about Bruce are irrelevant he's simply not conditioned enough for the big league yet.

          I'd almost be tempted to play him in the VFL for the remainder of the season and put him through a 20/21 preseason again and have him fit and ready for next year.
          "It's over. It's all over."

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44338

            #35
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

            Originally posted by mjp
            That's the VFL backline you guys are talking about right?

            We would be a better side with Sweet giving us 5-mins per quarter and sitting on the bench than we are with Josh right now. I know I am not exactly the leader of the JB fan club but he isn't ready right now. It's hard coming back from a knee. I feel no ill-will towards him as it isn't his fault but he is not ready or prepared to play AFL footy.
            That's how I see it. We know his best is impressive but he's a long way off it. Is playing him the seniors the best way to achieve that? I don't think so.
            The "he draws a good opponent" logic just doesn't ring true to me. Opposition teams will know that he doesn't need the best or second best defender on him at the moment.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Bullies
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 1807

              #36
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              This is straight truth. Personal feelings about Bruce are irrelevant he's simply not conditioned enough for the big league yet.

              I'd almost be tempted to play him in the VFL for the remainder of the season and put him through a 20/21 preseason again and have him fit and ready for next year.
              Agree with this call. I said previously Bruce looked well and truly under done playing in the 2's. Sides will quickly realise they don't need to play their 1 and 2 defenders on him he is so far off it. Wouldn't surprise if opposition leave him as a loose man on our forward line.

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              • Danjul
                WOOF Member
                • Apr 2019
                • 1601

                #37
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                Originally posted by azabob
                Danjul genuine question. Who are your INs and OUTs this week?

                Im utterly confused with what your preferred ruck set up is.
                I sat on the wing with a perfect view of the centre bounce. Melbourne got a goal 30 seconds after Bruce first went in for his first ruck contest there. That lifted them to their most dominant plays of the evening. He was a liability last night. I don’t blame him because he was brought in before he was ready.

                We all saw the difference between the 2020 and 2021 Bruce. The match committee has obviously decided that the rest of the team can carry him as he runs back into the 2021 form. After all, they did get our only 3 final wins in 5 years without him.

                We played Geelong recently and I sat through the middle of the game confidently expecting a win. Geelong couldn’t get back into the game and their lead was evaporating. Then English had a rest and the Cats surged. A repeat of the losses earlier in the year when Cordy was second ruck. The use of fill ins for ruck duty sometimes looks good but is usually damaging. We risked it last night and we have lost games earlier in the year with our selection.


                So who should play ruck? Someone who has shown that they can play ruck recently is the obvious answer.

                Preferably someone who can get more than 2 possessions and 3 hitouts. In his last game Schache got 12 possessions and 5 hitouts, so he can’t be considered. So it looks like Bruce will get the nod there.

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  #38
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                  Sweet in for Bruce
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15324

                    #39
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                    Originally posted by boydogs
                    Sweet in for Bruce
                    Check the stats from the Footscray game yesterday and let me know if you’re still happy with this call.

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9873

                      #40
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Check the stats from the Footscray game yesterday and let me know if you’re still happy with this call.
                      Then you'd look at Martin and you've got the same problem really. English plays what? 85 -90% ruck time. Martin can't play anywhere else, Sweet can't seem to clamp down on it either. It's stay with Bruce or go with Schache? I think we'll keep Bruce in the team.

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15324

                        #41
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        Then you'd look at Martin and you've got the same problem really. English plays what? 85 -90% ruck time. Martin can't play anywhere else, Sweet can't seem to clamp down on it either. It's stay with Bruce or go with Schache? I think we'll keep Bruce in the team.
                        Agree that neither Martin or Sweet can play as the 2nd ruck as they offer bugger all as forwards. You can’t have Sweet play as he did last week when he only had 61% TOG… you just can’t.

                        I’m all in on playing Darcy… no bigger game to debut in and at worst it means his Dad will have to hand over the game calling duties to someone else which is a win for footy fans.

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                        • josie
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 4408

                          #42
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Caleb might be back too.
                          I saw Caleb walking at WO yesterday with some of his friends. They were up the first set of stairs and walking past the coaches box. To my eye he looked like he was walking a bit gingerly. I’m guessing he will not be available for a few more weeks. We’ve missed him. However I think Bailey Dale has become even better in his absence, and has borne the extra responsibility on his shoulders well, so that’s a positive.

                          Martin looked really good yesterday, including around the ground. If he could only keep that up we might be surprised that talk of his demise is premature.
                          Josie :)

                          Our day will come
                          And we'll have everything.
                          We'll share the joy
                          Just like '54 again.

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                          • josie
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4408

                            #43
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Agree that neither Martin or Sweet can play as the 2nd ruck as they offer bugger all as forwards. You can’t have Sweet play as he did last week when he only had 61% TOG… you just can’t.

                            I’m all in on playing Darcy… no bigger game to debut in and at worst it means his Dad will have to hand over the game calling duties to someone else which is a win for footy fans.
                            I’d love to see this too. But as I say Martin looked pretty good around the ground yesterday.
                            Josie :)

                            Our day will come
                            And we'll have everything.
                            We'll share the joy
                            Just like '54 again.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18908

                              #44
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                              Originally posted by josie
                              I saw Caleb walking at WO yesterday with some of his friends. They were up the first set of stairs and walking past the coaches box. To my eye he looked like he was walking a bit gingerly. I’m guessing he will not be available for a few more weeks. We’ve missed him. However I think Bailey Dale has become even better in his absence, and has borne the extra responsibility on his shoulders well, so that’s a positive.

                              Martin looked really good yesterday, including around the ground. If he could only keep that up we might be surprised that talk of his demise is premature.
                              Interesting thanks Josie.

                              Bevo mentioned this week or next; maybe he was foxing.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Go_Dogs
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 10114

                                #45
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 20 vs Geelong at GMHBA Stadium

                                In: Daniel, Darcy

                                Out: Treloar, Bruce

                                If Treloar is right to go, it gets a bit tricky. Maybe McNeil moves to the sub and Daniel comes in.
                                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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