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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66692

    Offensive and Defensive review

    Richard Little - data Scientist at VIS and former Football Analyst at EFC, reviews Bulldogs Offensive and defensive





    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66692

    #2
    Re: Offensive and Defensive review

    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66692

      #3
      Re: Offensive and Defensive review

      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66692

        #4
        Re: Offensive and Defensive review

        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66692

          #5
          Re: Offensive and Defensive review

          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66692

            #6
            Re: Offensive and Defensive review

            Overall defensive system needs a big overhaul.

            We need a new defensive assistant coach
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11244

              #7
              Re: Offensive and Defensive review

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Overall defensive system needs a big overhaul.

              We need a new defensive assistant coach
              I've been saying it for a while, but as much as it's about structure, it's also personnel based.

              In simple terms, our defenders can't defend.

              Duryea is very good but has maybe 1 year left, Keath looks like he should retire, Gardy has improved but not the type we can build around. I had faith in Richards, but his EF was the WORST performance/meltdown I have seen. I know VDM has copped it, but Richards was actually worse. Dale is OK at times, but we know he's an attacker. Daniel has obvious limitations.

              We really need a shake up in terms of our defensive personnel as much as we do defensive structure. For one, I'd be moving Daniel or Dale further up the ground - possibly both if we can't improve the connection between forwards and mids.
              W00F!

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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6544

                #8
                Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                I've been saying it for a while, but as much as it's about structure, it's also personnel based.

                In simple terms, our defenders can't defend.

                Duryea is very good but has maybe 1 year left, Keath looks like he should retire, Gardy has improved but not the type we can build around. I had faith in Richards, but his EF was the WORST performance/meltdown I have seen. I know VDM has copped it, but Richards was actually worse. Dale is OK at times, but we know he's an attacker. Daniel has obvious limitations.

                We really need a shake up in terms of our defensive personnel as much as we do defensive structure. For one, I'd be moving Daniel or Dale further up the ground - possibly both if we can't improve the connection between forwards and mids.
                We need a QUALITY A GRADE FB….Gardner is not it. He’s a 3rd defender type.
                I’m not sold on Jones until I see him play again.

                For mine, we need a FB and CHB who can beat opposition one on one.

                And we need 2 of the other 4 to be able to do it as well.

                Dale is an attacker. Get him one out with an opponent and he’d lose 8/10 times.
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66692

                  #9
                  Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                  Originally posted by DOG GOD
                  We need a QUALITY A GRADE FB….Gardner is not it. He’s a 3rd defender type.
                  I’m not sold on Jones until I see him play again.

                  For mine, we need a FB and CHB who can beat opposition one on one.

                  And we need 2 of the other 4 to be able to do it as well.

                  Dale is an attacker. Get him one out with an opponent and he’d lose 8/10 times.
                  I agree on who we need, but based on the analysis by Richard, doesn't matter who plays in the backline, it is the system that is broken and we need to look at it before we get players in.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11154

                    #10
                    Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    The general consensus has long been that our defenders can't defend and are exposed one on one but this actually refutes that.

                    Our one on one defensive win rate is actually really high, but we aren't forcing the opposition to kick to one on ones often enough. That surely has to be on the midfield more so than the defence.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18959

                      #11
                      Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      The general consensus has long been that our defenders can't defend and are exposed one on one but this actually refutes that.

                      Our one on one defensive win rate is actually really high, but we aren't forcing the opposition to kick to one on ones often enough. That surely has to be on the midfield more so than the defence.
                      I think our midfield is mega one paced.

                      It's why I can't understand why Treloar isn't used more with Smith at times.

                      Bont, Treloar, Smith is a rotation I'd have up my sleeve.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • DOG GOD
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 6544

                        #12
                        Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        I think our midfield is mega one paced.

                        It's why I can't understand why Treloar isn't used more with Smith at times.

                        Bont, Treloar, Smith is a rotation I'd have up my sleeve.
                        Maybe because neither have a defensive bone in their body ?
                        I will never see #16 the same!!

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18959

                          #13
                          Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                          Originally posted by DOG GOD
                          Maybe because neither have a defensive bone in their body ?
                          They'd fit right in then!

                          Treloar used to be a reasonably good contested player.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11244

                            #14
                            Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Treloar used to be a reasonably good contested player.
                            On the eye test, it feels like he's really dropped away in this respect. If anything at the Pies he was too 'inside' and didn't use his pace enough.

                            Thought his balance last year was pretty good pre-injury, but this year he hasn't seemed to effect the game in the inside OR the outside.
                            W00F!

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18959

                              #15
                              Re: Offensive and Defensive review

                              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                              On the eye test, it feels like he's really dropped away in this respect. If anything at the Pies he was too 'inside' and didn't use his pace enough.

                              Thought his balance last year was pretty good pre-injury, but this year he hasn't seemed to effect the game in the inside OR the outside.
                              He dropped about ten kegs I believe probably to help with injuries.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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