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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9876

    Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

    Was there really anyone here that honestly thought we might actually have a chance at him or are we just passing time?

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66785

      Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      Was there really anyone here that honestly thought we might actually have a chance at him or are we just passing time?
      Hoping Club might read it
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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

        Originally posted by G-Mo77
        Was there really anyone here that honestly thought we might actually have a chance at him or are we just passing time?
        I think we dodged a bullet. Knee injury, stress fractures of the foot, etc and the contract goes to 2027. 5 more years at $700k a year. Hello Stefan Martin mark II.

        Collingwood has won a cash for clunkers trade.
        Officially on the Bus-wagon

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        • dog town
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 1914

          Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

          Originally posted by F'scary
          I think we dodged a bullet. Knee injury, stress fractures of the foot, etc and the contract goes to 2027. 5 more years at $700k a year. Hello Stefan Martin mark II.

          Collingwood has won a cash for clunkers trade.
          There is definitely some prospect that Grundy is cooked but I personally like the way he plays when fit. The bigger issue is that if we got Grundy we trash all the development we have put into English.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

            Grundy dropped this week.

            Lobb dropped this week.

            Did the clubs chase the wrong tall?
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44690

              Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Grundy dropped this week.

              Lobb dropped this week.

              Did the clubs chase the wrong tall?
              Lobb a forward who rucks and Grundy is a pure ruckman. We got what we were after and it hasn't really worked yet.
              Melbourne rolled the dice and it hasn't quite panned out the way they wanted either.
              Had we brought in Grundy we might have dropped him a lot earlier.
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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21838

                Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                They must be super frustrated/ annoyed with Lobb to have dropped him (given how long they stuck with Bruce, which says to me with Lobb there's some issues with attitude), but technically, he is who they wanted so they made the right call to execute their strategy.

                Whether they got the strategy right......
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • MrMahatma
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3966

                  Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                  We got the exact Lobb that’s been running around for 10yrs.

                  Grundy looks to have fallen away.

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                  • macca
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2368

                    Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                    Originally posted by MrMahatma
                    We got the exact Lobb that’s been running around for 10yrs.

                    Grundy looks to have fallen away.
                    Yep, it was contract year for him last year, so he played better than average, in a mid field that could get to him.

                    We kinda stuck with him now with a crap forward delivery and running patterns.

                    IF we get 40 goals from him a year, his earnt his money, anything less than we are burning ours .

                    Flynn was the better trade , we should have chased, ironically from GWS and could not get a game.

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11846

                      Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                      Originally posted by macca
                      Yep, it was contract year for him last year, so he played better than average, in a mid field that could get to him.

                      We kinda stuck with him now with a crap forward delivery and running patterns.

                      IF we get 40 goals from him a year, his earnt his money, anything less than we are burning ours .

                      Flynn was the better trade , we should have chased, ironically from GWS and could not get a game.
                      Nah wasn't a contract year but he did want a trade so he was playing for that
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                      • MrMahatma
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3966

                        Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                        Originally posted by macca
                        Yep, it was contract year for him last year, so he played better than average, in a mid field that could get to him.

                        We kinda stuck with him now with a crap forward delivery and running patterns.

                        IF we get 40 goals from him a year, his earnt his money, anything less than we are burning ours .

                        Flynn was the better trade , we should have chased, ironically from GWS and could not get a game.
                        Ironically, we prob win if he plays tonight.

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                        • anfo27
                          WOOF Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2002

                          Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Grundy dropped this week.

                          Lobb dropped this week.

                          Did the clubs chase the wrong tall?
                          Gawn BOG this week. Does this change the dees & Grundys thinking? English to the eagles, Lobb to Melbourne, Grundy to us. Better balance for all me thinks.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                            Originally posted by anfo27
                            Gawn BOG this week. Does this change the dees & Grundys thinking? English to the eagles, Lobb to Melbourne, Grundy to us. Better balance for all me thinks.
                            Not sure I can think of two bigger name trades being traded the very next year. But I’m bored so I will play this out to see if specifics work:

                            English demands $1.1M with an Eagles offer and to be with his smoking hot GF in WA.
                            We say we won’t pay that.

                            Dees offer Picks 4, 15-18 & 22 and F1 - for - Pick 1 & F2
                            Dees take Harley Reid

                            WCE have 4, 15-18, 19, 22, 37 & 55

                            WCE trade Barass & 15-18, 37 & 55 - for English & 34

                            Dogs & Dees straight swap Lobb & Grundy (plus hand them back via WCE their 4th with us for Schache (pick 70) for getting 55 off WCE as it’s not needed by either club)

                            For:

                            Dogs: In: Grundy, Barass, Pick 15-18, 38 & 55 - for - English & 34, 70
                            WCE: In: English, 4, 22 & 34, F1 - for - Barass & Picks 1 & 38, F2
                            Dees: In: Lobb, Pick 1/Harley Reid & 70, F2 - for - Grundy & 4, 15-18, 22, F1

                            Dogs: Lose the AA ruckman we’ve developed and Lobb. Gain another first rounder ahead of a Croft bid. So three first rounders and Croft as a fourth first rounder when bid (current consensus pick 19 - end of first round). So four first rounders (Croft & Darcy covering Lobb longer term) & Barass (to replace Keath) and Grundy to replace English.
                            Dees: Upgrade their first rounder to Pick 1 for their Luke Jackson picks and minor downgrade next year. Get Lobb as a more genuine forward who can support Gawn
                            WCE: Land the AA ruckman and turn pick 1 into Pick 4, 22 and an upgrade from early second next year to a late first next year and second round upgrade from us this year. Still holding 4, 19, 22, 34 & F1 plus English.

                            On Barass I rate him about Pick 10. So adding 15-18 to me = 10 & 15-18 (less the upgrade we give them second round, but third rounder back for Draft Points) for English. Jackson trade is Picks 4, 13 & 22 (less some later picks back). So English here is valued about Jackson, but for Freo stinking it up this year and improving the future picks. So about right.


                            Is that about it? What you were after?
                            Last edited by bulldogtragic; 16-07-2023, 10:24 PM.
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                            • anfo27
                              WOOF Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2002

                              Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Not sure I can think of two bigger name trades being traded the very next year. But I’m bored so I will play this out to see if specifics work:

                              English demands $1.1M with an Eagles offer and to be with his smoking hot GF in WA.
                              We say we won’t pay that.

                              Dees offer Picks 4, 15-18 & 22 and F1 - for - Pick 1 & F2
                              Dees take Harley Reid

                              WCE have 4, 15-18, 19, 22, 37 & 55

                              WCE trade Barass & 15-18, 37 & 55 - for English & 34

                              Dogs & Dees straight swap Lobb & Grundy (plus hand them back via WCE their 4th with us for Schache (pick 70) for getting 55 off WCE as it’s not needed by either club)

                              For:

                              Dogs: In: Grundy, Barass, Pick 15-18, 38 & 55 - for - English & 34, 70
                              WCE: In: English, 4, 22 & 34, F1 - for - Barass & Picks 1 & 38, F2
                              Dees: In: Lobb, Pick 1/Harley Reid & 70, F2 - for - Grundy & 4, 15-18, 22, F1

                              Dogs: Lose the AA ruckman we’ve developed and Lobb. Gain another first rounder ahead of a Croft bid. So three first rounders and Croft as a fourth first rounder when bid (current consensus pick 19 - end of first round). So four first rounders (Croft & Darcy covering Lobb longer term) & Barass (to replace Keath) and Grundy to replace English.
                              Dees: Upgrade their first rounder to Pick 1 for their Luke Jackson picks and minor downgrade next year. Get Lobb as a more genuine forward who can support Gawn
                              WCE: Land the AA ruckman and turn pick 1 into Pick 4, 22 and an upgrade from early second next year to a late first next year and second round upgrade from us this year. Still holding 4, 19, 22, 34 & F1 plus English.

                              On Barass I rate him about Pick 10. So adding 15-18 to me = 10 & 15-18 (less the upgrade we give them second round, but third rounder back for Draft Points) for English. Jackson trade is Picks 4, 13 & 22 (less some later picks back). So English here is valued about Jackson, but for Freo stinking it up this year and improving the future picks. So about right.


                              Is that about it? What you were after?
                              I think we look a better balanced team round 1 next year in this scenario.

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13237

                                Re: Operation Get Brodie Grundy

                                Originally posted by hujsh
                                Nah wasn't a contract year but he did want a trade so he was playing for that
                                Also pretty much played as the honcho forward all year. Very different here.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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