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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3565

    #61
    Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

    [QUOTE=KT31;51188]
    Originally posted by Mantis
    Well from Footscray Williamstown is about 7km.

    Not sure where Williams is?

    If I meant Williamstown I would have said Willy.
    Nobody calls Williamstown, Williams.
    There's a town called Williams about 180kms south of Perth ... does this help?

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    • BulldogBelle
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 5284

      #62
      Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

      What we need to do in the next two weeks...........
      Run. Run. And run some more.
      Make our tackles
      Hit the opposition hard every time we tackle them
      Run the lines
      Apply pressure on the opposition’s ball carriers
      Back ourselves
      Have numbers at every contest
      Do anything we can to get i.e. soccer, slap etc the ball forward relatively quickly so stop the opposition flooding our forward 50 limiting our options and forcing a long bomb to a small forward line like Welsh, Johnson, Harbrow etc
      Fast movement within the forward 50 to find an option. Bombing it long to the square as we don’t have a big marking forward and our small players rarely kick crumbing goals.
      Have confidence in our superior skills

      Players
      Get Higgins, West and Williams back into the side. Higgins this week. West/Williams the week after
      Ward, Hill, Callan & Harbrow will all be on the chopping block
      I don’t think we should be worrying about Skipper at this late stage. We have done well with the forward line we’ve got (less the last month). If Williams can get back into the side lets not worry about Everitt.
      Play Aker forward again

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15445

        #63
        Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

        Originally posted by Dog House
        What we need to do in the next two weeks...........
        Run. Run. And run some more.
        Make our tackles
        Hit the opposition hard every time we tackle them
        Run the lines
        Apply pressure on the opposition’s ball carriers
        Back ourselves
        Have numbers at every contest
        Do anything we can to get i.e. soccer, slap etc the ball forward relatively quickly so stop the opposition flooding our forward 50 limiting our options and forcing a long bomb to a small forward line like Welsh, Johnson, Harbrow etc
        Fast movement within the forward 50 to find an option. Bombing it long to the square as we don’t have a big marking forward and our small players rarely kick crumbing goals.
        Have confidence in our superior skills

        Players
        Get Higgins, West and Williams back into the side. Higgins this week. West/Williams the week after
        Ward, Hill, Callan & Harbrow will all be on the chopping block
        I don’t think we should be worrying about Skipper at this late stage. We have done well with the forward line we’ve got (less the last month). If Williams can get back into the side lets not worry about Everitt.
        Play Aker forward again
        Are they the player's who are making us perform poorly?

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        • The Bulldogs Bite
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11245

          #64
          Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Are they the player's who are making us perform poorly?
          It's getting a little annoying hearing the blame be put on those players in particular. Hill & Ward are kids - we cannot expect them to 'lift' us off the ground. They might not be ready just yet, but both have made solid strides this year and look like being fine players in 2+ years time.

          Callan needs to keep playing, he's only got a few games under his belt since coming back from injury and I would suspect he'll be cherry ripe come finals. Regardless, his job is to stop his man and assist our other defenders by being the third man up. Creating the play isn't on his description.

          Harbrow has actually been one of the few players to give us something over the past 5 weeks. He was quiet on Saturday Night, but he's been playing some quality football. His intensity/pressure skills have been great, whilst he's also been making the most of his opportunities up forward. He's probably almost earned himself a position against The Hawks in a few weeks time. It's easy to forget this is only his second year - he's going to be a player.

          As you have inadvertently alerted to Mantis, the blame doesn't rest with the above players, it's with the 'senior' group - Cooney, Griffen, Akermanis, Eagleton, Ray, Welsh, Minson, Hahn etc. etc.
          W00F!

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          • BulldogBelle
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 5284

            #65
            Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Are they the player's who are making us perform poorly?
            I could name another 10 of their mates who are also performing badly. Those four havent consolidated their positions and are going to be the likley candidates for Williamstown in the next week or two. The 'kids' (less Callan) will be the first to go.
            Last edited by BulldogBelle; 17-08-2008, 11:21 PM.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #66
              Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

              Hill and Ward definetely will be shown up under finals pressure as they struggling at the moment. No blame on them for the team's problems its just they are young.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15445

                #67
                Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                Hill and Ward definetely will be shown up under finals pressure as they struggling at the moment. No blame on them for the team's problems its just they are young.
                So will the rest of the team on current form so why not play them. It would be great experience for them to see where they have to be and will hopefully spur them on to have big pre-season's.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #68
                  Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  So will the rest of the team on current form so why not play them. It would be great experience for them to see where they have to be and will hopefully spur them on to have big pre-season's.
                  I see you are angry man right now so I won't argue with you too much.

                  I have more faith in the experienced guys turning their form around than I do a 1st year senior player stepping up in finals.

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15445

                    #69
                    Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                    Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                    I see you are angry man right now so I won't argue with you too much.

                    I have more faith in the experienced guys turning their form around than I do a 1st year senior player stepping up in finals.
                    I'm not angry.

                    For me Hill has to play, he adds something to our team. He has to work on his disposal and tackling, but he has the ability to find space and take a mark. Ward looks a bit out of place and probably could do with a rest, but will be better for the experience.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #70
                      Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                      Gia was bagged or getting stats when the game was over, I think Hill did the same this week.

                      Getting experience in them is great but come finals time when can't afford to carry 2 younger style players that easily brushed off.

                      Side note someone please tell me who was on Dalziel?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15445

                        #71
                        Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                        Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                        Gia was bagged or getting stats when the game was over, I think Hill did the same this week.
                        That's crap.

                        Last week we were about 6 goals down at the 20min of the last qtr when Gia started to get a kick. It was a much different story this week in the last qtr as we were always within a couple of goals.

                        I thought Hill was ok in the last qtr, unlike Griffen, Cross, Johnson, Murphy, etc who couldn't get near the pill when we needed them to.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #72
                          Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          That's crap.

                          Last week we were about 6 goals down at the 20min of the last qtr when Gia started to get a kick. It was a much different story this week in the last qtr as we were always within a couple of goals.
                          Its not crap. Could be argued we were still in game against North as we got to 3 down with enough time and it could be argued we lost game against Brisbane in the first 3 quarters when Hill was no where to be seen.

                          You give Hill the benefit of the doubt over Gia since he is more experienced but its not the first week in the last 2 months that Hill hardly gets a touch.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15445

                            #73
                            Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                            Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                            Its not crap. Could be argued we were still in game against North as we got to 3 down with enough time and it could be argued we lost game against Brisbane in the first 3 quarters when Hill was no where to be seen.

                            You give Hill the benefit of the doubt over Gia since he is more experienced but its not the first week in the last 2 months that Hill hardly gets a touch.
                            This is not an arguement between Gia and Hill.

                            Where were our midfielder's in the last qtr? Besides Cooney and Hill who ran the game out ok the rest couldn't get a touch.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #74
                              Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              This is not an arguement between Gia and Hill.

                              Where were our midfielder's in the last qtr? Besides Cooney and Hill who ran the game out ok the rest couldn't get a touch.
                              Doesn't excuse Hill, rather players play 4 quarters, then 3 quarters, then 2, then 1 like Hill did.
                              Some of the midfield were alright for 50-75% of the game.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15445

                                #75
                                Re: Game Day - Bulldogs vs Lions

                                Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                                Doesn't excuse Hill, rather players play 4 quarters, then 3 quarters, then 2, then 1 like Hill did.
                                Some of the midfield were alright for 50-75% of the game.
                                What do you expect of Hill?

                                I think your expectations of him are far too high compared to a few of our supposed 'team leaders'.

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