Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

[Go_Dogs]

We've got a lot of potential in our forward half this coming season, and I suppose an expectation the goal scoring load may be shared more equally across the board.

So, who do you think ends up our leading goal kicker and what gives them the edge (or makes them the teams preferred avenue) to topping the leader board?



I'm going to nominate Lobb. I think he's got a different look (lead and mark) that will mean he's less reliant on big pack busting and we know he's got a long range and likes Marvel on my limited viewing of him there.

I'd pick Naughton and Cody to round out the top 3.

[azabob]

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I’m going to nominate Lobb. I think he’s got a different look (lead and mark) that will mean he’s less reliant on big pack busting and we know he’s got a long range and likes Marvel on my limited viewing of him there.

I’d pick Naughton and Cody to round out the top 3.

You best cast your vote then

Now you mention it you are spot on, we currently don't have the lead and mark type player on our list.

Lobb will be a great point of difference.

I went with Naughton purely because he typically has 100 shots on goal a year and I'm confident he will kick more goals than he misses.

[Go_Dogs]

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Thanks Aza.

Naughton leading the charge. He’s definitely still our big kahuna in the forward line, and should also benefit from Lobb playing and Marra’s improvement. This forward line is scary…

[The Doctor]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

I went with Jamarra.

[mjp]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

I went with Jamarra.

I'm fascinated as to why??

[Go_Dogs]

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I'm fascinated as to why??

Agreed. I think he’ll improve and his finishing is solid, but would be MASSIVE if he scores more than Naughts and Lobb.

[The Doctor]

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I'm fascinated as to why??

I've probably jumped the gun but I've always been a sucker for exciting young forwards. Naughton or Flea probably the favourites.

I feel there is a great opportunity for him this year. His encouraging natural development combined with Lobb & Naughton likely to get the best defenders opens up opportunity for him. He's a natural goal kicker, looks more settled in the senior team and hopefully more confident. I loved his game v Melbourne last year where he took the game by the scruff. He kicked a bag that day and think we will see a few more of these games. The talk of Naughton playing a little further upfield at CHF and Weightman spending time midfield might also open up chances for him to hit the scoreboard.

He's a smokey but if there were odds over 10-1 I'd lay a fiver on it.

[1eyedog]

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Went Cody he can kick goals quickly and is accurate. Needs to play HIS role though. This is easily the best forward line we've ever had.

[The Doctor]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

This is easily the best forward line we've ever had.

Pieman, Lally, Super, Jock, Budgie with Choco chipping in was pretty handy in 85.

Still think we are short a good ground level small forward

[Jeanette54]

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I went with Jamarra.

I agree, for wo reasons.

One is that he will (initially) get the third best tall defender, the best two going to Naughts and Lobb. The other reason is that he doesn't waste his set shots on goal. The opposition just can't afford to let him get his hands on the ball too often.

Also, he is a beautiful, conventional leading forward when he chooses. And will only improve overhead with experience and as his frame matures.

Don't get me wrong, I love Astro Naught with his exciting attack on the ball, which always make me fear for his safety. And if the team ever learn to deliver the ball to Cody's advantage, he should continue to regularly trouble the scorers.

[mjp]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

I agree, for wo reasons.

One is that he will (initially) get the third best tall defender, the best two going to Naughts and Lobb. The other reason is that he doesn't waste his set shots on goal. The opposition just can't afford to let him get his hands on the ball too often.

You know he kicked 18.16 last year right?

And Naughton kicked 51.34?

I'm not trying to attack J54 or Doc or anyone else who thinks Jamarra will top the goal-kicking, but there seems to be a narrative out there that Jamarra is a great shot for goal and Naughts is a terrible shot for goal but in 2022 that simply wasn't the case...Naughts was a lot more accurate with more the double the number of shots on goal.

Lobb kicked 36.24 fwiw.

[Happy Days]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

You know he kicked 18.16 last year right?

And Naughton kicked 51.34?

I'm not trying to attack J54 or Doc or anyone else who thinks Jamarra will top the goal-kicking, but there seems to be a narrative out there that Jamarra is a great shot for goal and Naughts is a terrible shot for goal but in 2022 that simply wasn't the case...Naughts was a lot more accurate with more the double the number of shots on goal.

Lobb kicked 36.24 fwiw.

Marra’s action is beautiful and he flushes balls when he kicks them right, but I do wonder if the hoisting style he uses leaves a little too much room for error. As you said it’s kinda borne out in the results.

Although I also conversely believe that for whatever reason it takes young forwards a few seasons to deal with the nerves of having a set shot in the AFL. So maybe it’s nothing.

It is excellent that Naughton has become so reliable in any event.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

Marra’s action is beautiful and he flushes balls when he kicks them right, but I do wonder if the hoisting style he uses leaves a little too much room for error. As you said it’s kinda borne out in the results.

Although I also conversely believe that for whatever reason it takes young forwards a few seasons to deal with the nerves of having a set shot in the AFL. So maybe it’s nothing.

It is excellent that Naughton has become so reliable in any event.

Buddy used to bomb long ones and miss close ones with his long levers and booming kick too.

[Axe Man]

Re: Who will be our leading goal kicker in 2023?

You know he kicked 18.16 last year right?

And Naughton kicked 51.34?

I'm not trying to attack J54 or Doc or anyone else who thinks Jamarra will top the goal-kicking, but there seems to be a narrative out there that Jamarra is a great shot for goal and Naughts is a terrible shot for goal but in 2022 that simply wasn't the case...Naughts was a lot more accurate with more the double the number of shots on goal.

Lobb kicked 36.24 fwiw.

Taking into account total shots at goal our main forwards ran like this last season:

Naughton 51.34 from 97 shots @ 53%
Weighman 36.10 from 57 shots @ 63%
Jamarra 18.16 from 46 shots @ 39%
Lobb 36.24 from 74 shots @ 49%

Of course that doesn't break down set shots vs in play or the difficulty of the shots, but it does paint a picture.

As I have said before the idea that Naughton is a poor set shot these days is a fallacy. His figures are fairly standard for most key forwards in the league. Weightman we know is a fantastic set shot, Lobb maybe not quite as good as we thought but perhaps playing more games on his favourite ground in Marvel will help. Jamarra looks good kicking at goal but the reality is he has plenty of work to do to improve his accuracy. 11 fewer shots than Flea for 18 fewer goals, needs to make more of his chances.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Taking into account total shots at goal our main forwards ran like this last season:

Naughton 51.34 from 97 shots @ 53%
Weighman 36.10 from 57 shots @ 63%
Jamarra 18.16 from 46 shots @ 39%
Lobb 36.24 from 74 shots @ 49%

Of course that doesn't break down set shots vs in play or the difficulty of the shots, but it does paint a picture.

As I have said before the idea that Naughton is a poor set shot these days is a fallacy. His figures are fairly standard for most key forwards in the league. Weightman we know is a fantastic set shot, Lobb maybe not quite as good as we thought but perhaps playing more games on his favourite ground in Marvel will help. Jamarra looks good kicking at goal but the reality is he has plenty of work to do to improve his accuracy. 11 fewer shots than Flea for 18 fewer goals, needs to make more of his chances.

The impression of Naughton as a poor shot comes from the amount of misses "my mother could have kicked".

He is actually quite good from the 35 to 50 range but blows plenty from inside 20. There needs to be stats for that.

If there are stats for posters I would expect Naughts to be a world record contender. He seems to hit the post a LOT and multiple times some games.