Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

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  • Danjul
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 1601

    #31
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

    Originally posted by D Mitchell
    Lobb did the hard work on the forward line, competitive in marking packs, bodying interceptors, and was as good at ruckwork as English when he relieved. Those qualities were glaringly lacking against St Kilda. Subbed off in the last 10 minutes or so, hope it's not serious.
    The general comment around where I was sitting was Lobb wasn?t moving well, right from the start of the game. At one stage I thought he was limping noticeably. Couldn?t keep up with the game movement. Good to see the strong mark and accurate shot at goal.

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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6924

      #32
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

      Sunny had a shocker. I don't think being 'dropped' has to be a punishment/purely negative, can still show love and make it a development thing. Door is very much still open short term, just go back and kill it at VFL level. Also fine if we still it's best for his confidence to keep him in.

      I would replace Bruce with Gardy. Nothing really against Juice, more about the MCG and having Gardner's ability to keep up running wise.

      McNeill in for Garcia. Would prioritise need for speed in filling out the 22. Really do not want guys who are killing it with CBAs in VFL who won't get the time in AFL.

      Darcy in if Lobb isn't right.

      Doc perhaps as sub?

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      • Bullies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 1807

        #33
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

        Originally posted by Axe Man
        I didn't mind Garcia's game overall. I thought he was a bit unlucky with the Dunkley 50, wasn't really that late just unfortunate that he hooked his arm and it swung him horizonal. Was worth it in any case . Second 50 was a horrible brain fade but he knew that himself instantly.

        Bevo said Lobb was fine, just jarred his ankle slightly but the sub was also about introducing some more run, just as Brisbane did with theirs.

        I thought Keath was good last night, was a large part of us moving the ball from defensive 50. As much as I like Gardner that isn't his bag. I'm unsure how we go about fitting 4 KPDs into 3 spots as none deserve to be dropped.

        I would also go no change.
        I think Gardner would play on Tom Lynch. He plays close checking which is something you need on a player like Lynch.

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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6508

          #34
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

          Originally posted by Bullies
          I think Gardner would play on Tom Lynch. He plays close checking which is something you need on a player like Lynch.
          I think Jones is our best match-up for Lynch. Gardner's at his best when he gets a run and jump at the ball - I don't see that happening playing on Lynch too often.

          If Gardner comes in, I'd have thought it would be for the mobile Riewoldt who might have too much agility for the three that played last night.

          In saying that, I'd start with Jones to Lynch, Keath to Riewoldt and Bruce on Samson Ryan (would look to exploit that and free Bruce up to play the intercepting role we say in rounds 1 and 2).

          Side note - I massively underrated how good a player Jones had become at Carlton. His ability and courage in the air is outstanding and he's the best of our key defending talls by foot.

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          • Critter
            Rookie List
            • Jan 2023
            • 406

            #35
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

            I'd resist the temptation to bring back Duryea. JJ played quite well last night and his pace was a real bonus. I'd look to making him a permanent member of the back 6 and would also immediately bring in Gardner. Let the current set-up settle and get used to playing along side each other.

            Bruce wasn't too bad at all but I feel he would be better value for us up forward. Our entry into the forward line is appalling, still. I have little faith in our ability to turn this around. So, if we're going to drop the ball on the forwards' heads, we need a strong body who can provide a contest - either to mark, bring the ball to ground or to clear a path. Bruce is that strong body. He doesn't shy away from a physical contest, has forward craft and he now looks to be nearing match fitness. Lobb needs a rest - mainly, to get fully fit but also because his form over the last three weeks doesn't warrant selection. Bruce can give English a chop out in the ruck when necessary. I believe it's unacceptable for our tall forwards to be watching opposition backs flying uncontested for marks. As was too often the case last night. We need to be present at every marking contest.

            And, I agree that we need to go easy on Garcia. Sure, he had a nightmare at moments but his errors can be coached. I like his endeavour and aggression and the fact the regularly gets to contests. He has smarts and he will improve steadily with game time. Keep playing him.

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15224

              #36
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

              Originally posted by Go_Dogs
              Gardner in I suppose.

              Keath out?

              Keath has done some good things and some not so good, but is probably fourth in line now for key defenders.
              What about Lobb out and Bruce forward?
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44391

                #37
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                Originally posted by Danjul
                The general comment around where I was sitting was Lobb wasn?t moving well, right from the start of the game. At one stage I thought he was limping noticeably. Couldn?t keep up with the game movement. Good to see the strong mark and accurate shot at goal.
                I agree, mentioned early in the game that he looked liked he was wearing ill fitting boots.
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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5853

                  #38
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                  It was most likely precautionary but in one of the videos in the rooms Treloar was having his right hamstring iced.
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44391

                    #39
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                    Originally posted by Hotdog60
                    It was most likely precautionary but in one of the videos in the rooms Treloar was having his right hamstring iced.
                    I'd say that is a normal precautionary step for him after every game and at the training sessions it's having dencorub applied.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10117

                      #40
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      What about Lobb out and Bruce forward?
                      Yeah don’t mind it.

                      Lobb kicked 2 goals, which on balance is take week on week from him, but really struggled to impact in most contests that were near him. If he’s not quite right, then I like this move.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15224

                        #41
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                        Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                        Yeah don’t mind it.

                        Lobb kicked 2 goals, which on balance is take week on week from him, but really struggled to impact in most contests that were near him. If he’s not quite right, then I like this move.
                        What puzzles me with Lobb is why is Naughton still taking inside F50 ruck contests?
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66263

                          #42
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                          Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                          Yeah don’t mind it.

                          Lobb kicked 2 goals, which on balance is take week on week from him, but really struggled to impact in most contests that were near him. If he’s not quite right, then I like this move.
                          Can't see Lobb being dropped unless he has an injury.
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                          • macca
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2352

                            #43
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                            Our coaching staff should be watching the Collingwood vs Richmond game tonight. the pies are really choking the tiger's mid and getting a heap of fwd 50. Pies have kicked 3.10 with 8 mins left in the 2nd quarter.

                            yes this game could be 30 point difference if they had kicked straight.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21664

                              #44
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                              If Lobb's out Bruce goes forward, if Gardner is coming in.

                              If Lobb's in and Gardner's in, Bruce or Keath go out and we back in a defencive unit for at least a month.

                              Outside of that I'd be looking to reward a disciplined reserves effort and drop an undisciplined one. So somebody in for Garcia.

                              Garcia wasn't at all good, panicked with the footy/ didn't think his way through situations and also lost his head a few times inexplicably (he had -6 Super Coach points for a whole game!). It could be an aberration and as I've said I'm not losing my mind if he's retained. Just think about how this board would be if a McComb or Hannan was as poor as Garcia was and did the three silly things he did that cost us. It would be out of control.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21664

                                #45
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 4 V Richmond

                                Garcia last night:

                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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