(MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in 23

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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7363

    (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in 23

    I think (I think) I am renowned for giving Macrae a hard time on here - particularly for his body language when things (particularly the position he is playing) aren't going his way. BUT that's only because I admire him so much that I simply cannot stand the way he lets himself down.

    He has been an amazing player for us - incredibly consistent, hard working, clean and RELENTLESS with his running on match day. I think he is absolutely incredible and a 'cross' between those great icons of the 2000's - Scott West and Daniel Cross - but with a WAY better kick than either of those two.

    Anyway - I think it is time he walked home a winner on Charles Sutton night. I feel he would be pretty disappointed with what he delivered in 2022 and will be thinking 'come-back' in the biggest way...and I just think he has the ability to challenge himself on-field in a way few others can.

    Macrae for the B&F in 2023 - and to return to the AA team.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5643

    #2
    Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

    I think he will have an outstanding year with more minutes available in his preferred role and a fire in his belly from the disappointment of 2022.

    But unfortunately for him he still plays with Bont, so he won't be winning the B&F.

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5567

      #3
      Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

      I think he should have won the B&F already but he doesn't seem to get the internal acknowledgement even when he is flying.

      He also competes with some pretty good candidates and Bont wins when he is fit.
      There is also competition coming from Naughton, Bailey Smith and others which might prevent Jack ever claiming the B&F

      He can be happy contributing to some flags and perhaps claim a Norm Smith. (This year would be good)
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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10142

        #4
        Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

        I’ve always sorta suspected that Bevo doesn’t value Jack as much as he should.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13235

          #5
          Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

          He's so team-orientated I believe he doesn't care about individual honours. Some players are just like this. I think he's proud when he achieves i.e. AA accolades and VC honours but he strikes me as someone who just gets on with it quietly.

          No way he gets close to the award with a fully fit Bont.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7363

            #6
            Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            He's so team-orientated I believe he doesn't care about individual honours.
            Which is why - this year - he wins!
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • SquirrelGrip
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2007
              • 1523

              #7
              Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

              I love Jack. In the pantheon of Bulldogs champion, I rate him above Scott West.

              One thing about Jack though is that whilst he can play different roles, he doesn't seem to be able to play different positions. I wonder when he eventually ages whether he ends up down back like Matthew Boyd - or is there another string to his bow?
              "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66703

                #8
                Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                He's so team-orientated I believe he doesn't care about individual honours.
                I think he is concerned a lot by his own contribution and he can tell you how many kicks and handballs he has had during a game. Whether he cares about the honours, I am not sure.

                I totally agree with the OP on this one.
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                • FrediKanoute
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 3826

                  #9
                  Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                  Contentious opinion - not enough hurt factor. Love the way he accumulates, but to hurt you he has to have high 30 posession game - Bont/Smith can hurt you with 20

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14950

                    #10
                    Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                    Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                    Contentious opinion - not enough hurt factor. Love the way he accumulates, but to hurt you he has to have high 30 posession game - Bont/Smith can hurt you with 20
                    Macrae's retention from inside 50s is well ahead of Smith. Miles ahead
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                    • josie
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4482

                      #11
                      Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Macrae's retention from inside 50s is well ahead of Smith. Miles ahead
                      Also Macrae is less likely to kick it straight to an opponent player. Perhaps this is what you (partially) were saying.
                      Josie :)

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                      • SquirrelGrip
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1523

                        #12
                        Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                        Originally posted by josie
                        Also Macrae is less likely to kick it straight to an opponent player. Perhaps this is what you (partially) were saying.
                        Except he did exactly that on Saturday.
                        "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66703

                          #13
                          Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                          Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                          Except he did exactly that on Saturday.
                          So did many players including lots of Melbourne players. Unfortunately we didn't make them pay when they did.
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                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • josie
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4482

                            #14
                            Re: (MAYBE) Consensus Opinion: Jack Macrae might be the highest polling player NEVER to win a B&F - That changes in

                            Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                            Except he did exactly that on Saturday.
                            True, but to my eye Baz is a bigger culprit from prior games.
                            Josie :)

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                            And we'll have everything.
                            We'll share the joy
                            Just like '54 again.

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