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  • DOG GOD
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2007
    • 6378

    Re: Sharp Axes

    I have never seen our team with such an inept mindset/game plan etc. The players are not galvanised and are not playing for eachother. In my experience when someone has to continually say how together the playing group is, they are only saying to make others believe in a fallacy.
    Hawks have a fight on their hands for Harley Reid.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    • anfo27
      WOOF Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2002

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Do we need to keep making the Chompers reference? While I get that we are all frustrated by our performances to me there is no question that Bevo deserves a bit more respect than that.

      What if, and I don't know this for sure, losing Maple and Graham over the last few years is the real root cause of the challenges we are facing?
      It's genuinely perplexing why we are playing so poorly.
      Honestly, I can't take him seriously with that look.

      Can you expand on that? What did we lose with Maple & Graham that might be making a difference? Was there any semblance of a new system in pre-season?

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44183

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by SonofScray
        This is a good scenario analysis.

        I’d be prepared to risk scenario 1, but 3 is the safe bet.
        You're actually suggesting the Alan Joyce scenario aren't you? Make the change and appoint someone but not an interim appointment because the coaches you suggested are very unlikely to want to jump in for an interim role.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • DOG GOD
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jul 2007
          • 6378

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by anfo27
          Honestly, I can't take him seriously with that look.

          Can you expand on that? What did we lose with Maple & Graham that might be making a difference? Was there any semblance of a new system in pre-season?
          The only change to our game plan was to incorporate the 4 pronged talls in the fwd line hoping one can pluck all the long bombs.
          I will never see #16 the same!!

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44183

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            Yeah who started that ffs.

            Grow up idiots.
            You're a visionary GG.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • anfo27
              WOOF Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2002

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by DOG GOD
              The only change to our game plan was to incorporate the 4 pronged talls in the fwd line hoping one can pluck all the long bombs.
              That idea will never work if we have no system. We can't honestly say in 2015 a defence of Hambling & Roberts was premiership material. You put a system in place that the players believe in & it did work.

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18854

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                You're a visionary GG.
                Haha. It had its time now it's time to put it on the holster.

                BTW : the issues with character set seem to only happen in iOS. Wonder if it's an Apple update.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6774

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  There is clearly something wrong. That is obvious. How did it get to this? We don't know exactly but my hypothesis and one that has been thrown around on this board for sometime is the support around Bevo in the football department and in particular assistant coaches. Other clubs have bolstered this area in recent years and we have gone in the opposite direction. Other teams have ex senior coaches and a plethora of high quality assistants. We lost two respected senior coaches at the end of 2021 and did little to replace them. We bring in Lade this year but it ain't enough. The way we have adapted in the last few years in regards to how we defend the ground and move the ball has fallen way behind the competition leaders.

                  We have become way too reliant on just Bevo and he looks tired and bereft of ideas. He looks like he is carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.

                  For comparisons. Let's look at the Melbourne coaching team. Compare the depth of talent and experience to us. The club has failed in their duty to support Bevo. I'm sure he pushed back saying we have great people helping me, but he needs some higher quality coaching talent who can challenge Bevo and the plying group.

                  Coach.

                  Goodwin.

                  Assistants.

                  Yze
                  Richardson
                  Chaplin
                  Williams
                  Stafford

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                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5820

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    We haven't replaced Boyd who was hard nosed and Morris who gives his all and was very tight on his opponent.
                    I think we broken even with Richards taking JJ spot.
                    I think Boyd with his leadership could be a telling factor.
                    There is Woody but he was more injured than not and could be covered.
                    The bigger issue at the moment is in the middle and we need some speed and aggression with half decent skills.
                    Our Mids are too offensive and too slow on the counter.
                    Libba is great but if the player breaks his tackles Libba isn't going to catch them.
                    Overall we seem like a team lacking urgency the countless times with players jogging after their opponents when they are not in the play was mind boggling because they eventually become the next link in the chain and our player is miles off the pace.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                    • josie
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4385

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      I’d like to have seen an external full review rather than the internal one we ran. I’m really concerned we will lose Naughty or other players who want out after what looks like a disappointing year ahead. We will also be an unattractive destination for target players.
                      Josie :)

                      Our day will come
                      And we'll have everything.
                      We'll share the joy
                      Just like '54 again.

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                      • SonofScray
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4204

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        You're actually suggesting the Alan Joyce scenario aren't you? Make the change and appoint someone but not an interim appointment because the coaches you suggested are very unlikely to want to jump in for an interim role.
                        Not really, I’ve conflated my want to make a change with my want to have Bevo out now.

                        Ideally, we do let him see out the season while we canvass the names I mentioned. That’s the smart play.

                        The risky one, which my impatience is driving me towards is to pull the trigger now, Lade the lucky fella to get the chance and force that awkward scenario if he can find something.
                        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                        • kruder
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2011
                          • 3768

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Just even getting Lade from St Kilda was a strange decision, what intel where we going to get from their program?

                          Has anyone picked up any changes to our gameplan apart from not backing off the mark?

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44183

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Haha. It had its time now it's time to put it on the holster.

                            BTW : the issues with character set seem to only happen in iOS. Wonder if it's an Apple update.
                            Thanks, That's a great pick-up
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9873

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by josie
                              I’d like to have seen an external full review rather than the internal one we ran. I’m really concerned we will lose Naughty or other players who want out after what looks like a disappointing year ahead. We will also be an unattractive destination for target players.
                              Ahh, the old internal review. Translated to ticking boxes and doing FA. It's not just Bevo who needs to go, anyone who ticked off his extension needs to be walked out the door. We don't need people in those positions making decisions based on nostalgia.

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                              • Stevo
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 1014

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Yeah who started that ffs.

                                Grow up idiots.
                                There are innovators and imitators and you are clearly have a knack and an eye for detail.

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