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  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6775

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    Grant looked like a ghost in the coaches box post-siren.
    The buck stops with the leader. He has overseen the Football Department since mid 2016. It has happened on his watch.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21540

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by 1eyedog
      Grant looked like a ghost in the coaches box post-siren.
      He looked listless.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15195

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by SonofScray
        Radio silence on club socials. That?s unusual.

        Something brewing?
        That is an extremely long bow to draw.

        Most likely they know they replies will not be kind.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15195

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by jeemak
          He looked listless.
          Good word listless.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11104

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by SonofScray
            Radio silence on club socials. That?s unusual.

            Something brewing?
            I know it's just the marketing department, but it's a bit spineless.
            W00F!

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4204

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by azabob
              That is an extremely long bow to draw.

              Most likely they know they replies will not be kind.
              They would have a plan for posting content after games, that hasn’t been followed. It might be a case of just wanting to save them from the incoming nuclear anger, but that’s still unusual. The loss has been significant enough for management to have given the directive to bunker down.
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3811

                Re: Sharp Axes

                I again saved myself the agony of watching another insipid display by heading over to Bribie island, just North of Brisbane and South of the Sunshine Coast. You have to love winter weather in Queensland - low 20's, bright sunshine and a cooling breeze - perfect Melbourne/London Summer's day.

                Checked the scores 8 mins to go in the 3rd quarter and we were a point up. Didn't bother checking again and again was not surprised by the result. It follows a script. The same script that this group, players and coaches have produced ad nauseum. Its frustrating; its disheartening; it goes against everything that they team stands for. Yet WCE, a team who have won just twice this season before today; who were pantsed by 100+ in the local derby; who with a win lose the number one draft pick; and who have a coach who is practically out the door win against a team with everything to play for.

                If the players and coaches had any decency they would donate their match fees to charity out of embarrassment. but they wont. Bevo trots the same old bullsh*t that he has trotted out all season. He can't understand why the team can't beat arguably the worst team in the league since Fitzroy! He can't work out why so many of his players are already on a plane to Bali or Europe despite the season not ending. He can't because he has lost the players. sad though it is, for a guy who has been so, important and so great for our club, he no longer has the ability to motivate them. The message/game plan/tactics are stale. Not surprising - he has been there 9 seasons.

                It is time for a change, a fresh pair of hands. Different tactics. Buckley/Cameron if we want a recycled coach; Hanson/Gia/Boyd if we want a new coach. Coach out the Geelong game, but let it be known that he wont be in the post next season.

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6775

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                  He can't understand why the team can't beat arguably the worst team in the league since Fitzroy! He can't work out why so many of his players are already on a plane to Bali or Europe despite the season not ending. He can't because he has lost the players.
                  I'm not disagreeing with this sentiment. However, my question is. If he has lost the players why are we not getting 100+ point beltings like the Eagles? Why are we just losing by single digit margins every second week? Why can we produce a nine goal opening quarter against the Tigers two weeks ago?

                  Once a coach loses the players, the wheels completely fall off normally. That means heavy defeats which we are yet to have. Not saying he has not lost the players, but this is a very different version of it which we normally see.

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                  • Guest

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Hopefully Bevo does the honourable thing and put the club first. Grant and Bains should follow as they gave Bevo too much power, to much money which limited the quality of assistants.

                    On a positive note JOD looks like a very good player as early as 24. Is now our 2nd best KPD and I would expect big improvement after a preseason.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21540

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                      I'm not disagreeing with this sentiment. However, my question is. If he has lost the players why are we not getting 100+ point beltings like the Eagles? Why are we just losing by single digit margins every second week? Why can we produce a nine goal opening quarter against the Tigers two weeks ago?

                      Once a coach loses the players, the wheels completely fall off normally. That means heavy defeats which we are yet to have. Not saying he has not lost the players, but this is a very different version of it which we normally see.
                      Agreed.

                      It's an overly simple throwaway line that gets trotted out too easily.

                      There's clearly issues, but they're more complex.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Eastdog
                        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 18210

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        I am in the camp now of changing up the coach Bevo or if we keep Bevo on wholesale changes to the assistants around him. The board and footy department big responsibility in what is going on as well and need people in there who want to take our club forward.

                        We also need to have a careful look at our list as well. A mini re-build might in order particularly our defence which is ageing and also our midfield which needs more grunt.

                        We need a Libba type because while Libba has been excellent he will not be there forever.

                        Bailey Smith we could trade out and get someone or picks which could be better long term.
                        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                        • whythelongface
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 4360

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Agreed.

                          It's an overly simple throwaway line that gets trotted out too easily.

                          There's clearly issues, but they're more complex.
                          Yep. Don’t think Bevo has lost the group rather he is (obviously) not getting the best out of the group. Definitely need to change things up - new coach, some new players

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18856

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Watching the presser, I found it very interesting that he mildly rebuked the notion that we have a list that should be well into the finals positions.

                            First time I've ever heard him say something like that, was quite a protectionist stance reading the sub text.

                            Paraphrasing he said outside of a handful of stars, you need to get the most out of your 23. Not sure he thinks we've got the depth others may.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44190

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              Watching the presser, I found it very interesting that he mildly rebuked the notion that we have a list that should be well into the finals positions.

                              First time I've ever heard him say something like that, was quite a protectionist stance reading the sub text.

                              Paraphrasing he said outside of a handful of stars, you need to get the most out of your 23. Not sure he thinks we've got the depth others may.
                              There could be a bit to that but bringing in 2 x 30yo in via trades, Baker and Poulter as rookies and drafting just 3 players at the national draft makes it sound like that this is a position that has evolved through the year more so than being evident 12 months ago.
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                              • macca
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2352

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                There could be a bit to that but bringing in 2 x 30yo in via trades, Baker and Poulter as rookies and drafting just 3 players at the national draft makes it sound like that this is a position that has evolved through the year more so than being evident 12 months ago.
                                IF Baker and Poulter are getting games, and they weren't on our list last year, it shows our lack of depth.

                                Some of our kids are not coming through , either through injury, poor form , missing KPI (???") or just can't crack it due to contest in position : Buku and Sweet

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