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  • Scorlibo
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 3073

    Re: Sharp Axes

    My feelings on Bevo's tenure centre entirely around the imminent overhaul - yes we've had a list that could have challenged this year, and it's a missed opportunity, but it would be folly to think that with a few further tweaks we can be a challenger next year.

    Anyone can see we need an overhaul of the aging list and of the football department, and I feel strongly that in this kind of situation you need a coach who is enthusiastic and ready for the long journey of heading in a new direction. If that's Bevo, then it's Bevo for the next 5 years. Somehow though he seems down on motivation himself, subdued, out of ideas and incapable of taking the reigns for this time span. What we absolutely should not be doing is taking a 'wait and see' approach with Bevo next year. We'll be a year behind in the process, which might cost us another tilt when the likes of Bont, Macrae, English, Dale are in their twilight.
    'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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    • angelopetraglia
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6774

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Caro running with that Bevo has the backing of Bont, but other players are not happy.

      Now edited to include the right link. https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/stat...912391396?s=20
      Last edited by angelopetraglia; 21-08-2023, 08:45 PM.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65958

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by Scorlibo
        My feelings on Bevo's tenure centre entirely around the imminent overhaul - yes we've had a list that could have challenged this year, and it's a missed opportunity, but it would be folly to think that with a few further tweaks we can be a challenger next year.

        Anyone can see we need an overhaul of the aging list and of the football department, and I feel strongly that in this kind of situation you need a coach who is enthusiastic and ready for the long journey of heading in a new direction. If that's Bevo, then it's Bevo for the next 5 years. Somehow though he seems down on motivation himself, subdued, out of ideas and incapable of taking the reigns for this time span. What we absolutely should not be doing is taking a 'wait and see' approach with Bevo next year. We'll be a year behind in the process, which might cost us another tilt when the likes of Bont, Macrae, English, Dale are in their twilight.
        Agree Scorlibo. A lot of planning, staff changes an restructure must be put into place ahead of preseason training
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        • The Bulldogs Bite
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11104

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Agree Scorlibo. A lot of planning, staff changes an restructure must be put into place ahead of preseason training
          Didn't we already do a review / make some structural changes last year?

          He has to go. Anything less is spineless and a club that holds dearly onto the success of 2016.

          Time to move on.
          W00F!

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44183

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
            Didn't we already do a review / make some structural changes last year?

            He has to go. Anything less is spineless and a club that holds dearly onto the success of 2016.

            Time to move on.
            Yes we did, I don't believe it was shared.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Dancin' Douggy
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 2877

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              There's many ways a club might over-rate a list and there can be no doubt that we expected to play finals this year and in addition thought we were in good shape to finish top 4. I was thinking about the Rohan Connelly article and I was wondering how we / the media actually assess our list's ability to achieve these goals?

              If you look at the number of high draft picks in the team, the potential of particular players and the snippets certain other players have provided us previously, I can see why the club and the media had high expectations this year. The Connelly article is interesting because for the first time yesterday in the post-match presser Bevo actually alluded to 'a handful of players is not going to get it done'. We know who these handful of players are. He also mentioned that you have to devise a plan based on the 23 you have. We know we have a suspect bottom 4 and have had for years. Reading between the lines was he indirectly hinting at the broad gap in ability / potential / smarts / mental toughness across our list?

              When reviewing the list now I'm wondering if Bevo is seriously contemplating for the first time not so much the raw football ability of the list, but their ability mentally and intellectually to stick with the program for four quarters. We may have a list that looks dynamite on paper in terms of talent and potential, but we may also have a list that are either mentally weak and can't roll out the plan, or are simply not smart enough to play their required role across four quarters. This might be far harder to discern, especially for those in the media / us supporters. Doesn't excuse Bevo though.

              If this is the case Bevo needs to identify and acknowledge it ASAP and devise a new plan to suit the cognitive ability of the players because they're not picking up what he is throwing down.
              But how much of the list and team selection is Bevo?s to own. To blame the list and the selected players when you?ve been the senior coach is indigestible to me. Is he blaming the recruiting, the trading, the selection panel and the players but none of it is his fault?

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11104

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Yes we did, I don't believe it was shared.
                Bit of a laughing stock to do a review after a review.
                W00F!

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21540

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                  Caro running with that Bevo has the backing of Bont, but other players are not happy.

                  https://x.com/sammy__edmund/status/1...y1lhUs8p7uzZ_A
                  Doesn't come through as reflecting what you posted.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • macca
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2352

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    Bit of a laughing stock to do a review after a review.
                    it will need to actually review the review that was done .

                    this list is limited and the players lack aggression and need to stamp their presence. they just play to nice footy.

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15194

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      Doesn't come through as reflecting what you posted.
                      Lol.
                      At least you’re now clicking links ��
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21540

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Lol.
                        At least you’re now clicking links ��
                        Get stuffed Aza.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • angelopetraglia
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6774

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Doesn't come through as reflecting what you posted.
                          Apologies. Here is the right link: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/stat...912391396?s=20

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21540

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                            Thanks and what a haaaaaawwwwwt take!

                            Bont supports him today. Bont's onside. Fringe players get selected over other fringe players - and the playing group is frustrated! So on and so forth.....
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6774

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              Thanks and what a haaaaaawwwwwt take!

                              Bont supports him today. Bont's onside. Fringe players get selected over other fringe players - and the playing group is frustrated! So on and so forth.....
                              Yep and yep. Interesting to see if there any other riveting bombshells at 9:40pm. Make sure you switch it on. Ha.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21540

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                Yep and yep. Interesting to see if there any other riveting bombshells at 9:40pm. Make sure you switch it on. Ha.
                                I have an appointment for my balls to be kicked in repeatedly at that time, so please keep me informed if you can?
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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