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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Telling you, Shocktober vibes.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5559

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Minno copped it. But I think it?s a fair sledge. But Cornes is still actually banging on about it. Likes to take easy shots for the headlines, just is surprisingly think skinned himself. Maybe the truth hurts most.
      Don't think the thread needs to continue to be derailed here, but feel I need to say that it's not a fair sledge at all to reference someone's unwell son, and if the roles were reversed we would crucify Kornes for being so disrespectful.

      I wouldn't forget a sledge like that either, and I think being offended by someone attacking your parenting and your son during a football match is very different to a football commentator sharing (sensationalist) views on football.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by jazzadogs
        Don't think the thread needs to continue to be derailed here, but feel I need to say that it's not a fair sledge at all to reference someone's unwell son, and if the roles were reversed we would crucify Kornes for being so disrespectful.

        I wouldn't forget a sledge like that either, and I think being offended by someone attacking your parenting and your son during a football match is very different to a football commentator sharing (sensationalist) views on football.
        We won’t derail it, but agree to disagree. I think it was squarely aimed at his choice to play a game of footy rather than be with his sick son. But I digress.

        Game on.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • SonofScray
          Coaching Staff
          • Apr 2008
          • 4204

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by Vred
          Playing group wants Ameet and Grant to go, they want Bevo to stay, mostly sparked by the treating of Rohan Smith, no one wants him to leave but the board/CEO.

          This is coming directly from a player.
          He?s too close to the playing group. Commented earlier on how what gets put out as his strength can easily be reframed as a lack of professional boundaries. Behaviourally, that?s on him, structurally though the right set up would have made it easier to manage those boundaries, which is on Bains and Grant.

          This is going to be a real problem.
          Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14562

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Telling you, Shocktober vibes.
            Bont and Bevo gone?
            The curse is dead.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44190

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by Vred
              Playing group wants Ameet and Grant to go, they want Bevo to stay, mostly sparked by the treating of Rohan Smith, no one wants him to leave but the board/CEO.

              This is coming directly from a player.
              Vred, thanks for the updates. If I can be so bold but is this information coming directly from the player to you or via someone else?

              I got to see how good Smith was with his players over the preseason so I'm sure some players will be very sorry to know that he is going.

              If one thing is becoming evident after the news that Smith is departing is that we can bury the notion that Bevo wields too much power. All the day-to-day footy decisions would still be under Bevo's control but clearly Grant has a vision for the strategic direction of the footy department and he is starting to implement it now.
              It will be fascinating to see how we set-up the footy department for next season.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by chef
                Bont and Bevo gone?
                Not Bont I wouldn’t think. But everything else sounds like it’s a tinder box. One spark and everything goes up. Then who knows. If some people don’t fall on swords and this gets done orderly and we can manage stakeholders and spin the narrative, then it will a red hot mess like Shocktober. I just don’t like all the different things coming out of lots of different sources. I’ve got a bad feeling. It might be good long term, Shocktober took us to a flag. But won’t be fun at this rate.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44190

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Telling you, Shocktober vibes.
                  I'm not getting that vibe BT, this is what would be happening at a lot of clubs but it's becoming a bigger news story for us because we aren't performing to expectations.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I'm not getting that vibe BT, this is what would be happening at a lot of clubs but it's becoming a bigger news story for us because we aren't performing to expectations.
                    I’m not reading the news about it. I’m just getting a sense of a bad period ahead.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Post 1,000 twice in a week!!!
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9873

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Not sure why players would take aim at Bains and Grant? I've never been inside a footy club but you'd think day to day they would have very little to do with them. If it's to do with Bubba being sacked, well that's probably because of the way the team has performed. Do they think we should just continue to sit on hands and roll the exact same thing out again next season?

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18856

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by G-Mo77
                          Not sure why players would take aim at Bains and Grant? I've never been inside a footy club but you'd think day to day they would have very little to do with them. If it's to do with Bubba being sacked, well that's probably because of the way the team has performed. Do they think we should just continue to sit on hands and roll the exact same thing out again next season?
                          The entire group made me laugh.

                          Anyone who's been around a footy club knows they arent that united.

                          Rory Lobb is upset because a defensive coach was not renewed? My word.

                          As for Ameet I've dealt with him a few times and had some casual conversations at functions (mainly about Newcastle United) and we are in really good hands.

                          Club is doing very well off field.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14562

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Not Bont I wouldn’t think. But everything else sounds like it’s a tinder box. One spark and everything goes up. Then who knows. If some people don’t fall on swords and this gets done orderly and we can manage stakeholders and spin the narrative, then it will a red hot mess like Shocktober. I just don’t like all the different things coming out of lots of different sources. I’ve got a bad feeling. It might be good long term, Shocktober took us to a flag. But won’t be fun at this rate.
                            I guess for it to be as bad as Shocktober he'd have to walk.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18856

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by chef
                              I guess for it to be as bad as Shocktober he'd have to walk.
                              I did speak with him recently and when I said the words Gold and coast not in that order one of his eyebrows lifted.
                              Damn it chef you're right!
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • JanLorMill
                                WOOF Member
                                • Feb 2023
                                • 1617

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                We should let Bains run another Sham review this year again.

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