Sharp Axes

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65958

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by Sedat
    That would explain our lack of run out of D50, but we were full-ground defending very well in that stretch. The mids and wings appeared to be running hard defensively to support the backline, our D50 ground positioning wasn't overly-aggressive so we were defending turnover much better, and our forwards were applying AFL standard pressure to ensure repeat F50 entries.

    Personnel issues are a factor but the drop off in effort when we don't have the ball has been pretty evident in many games in the back-end of the season.
    Looking at our losses this year, we have only had 2 scores above 100 points. The issue in those losses has been scoring, especially over the past 4 losses that have been around a goal defeat. In those losses Naughton has kicked 3, 1, 0, 1. Weightman 1,1,0,1, JUH 1,0,2,1
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

    Comment

    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21540

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by Sedat
      That would explain our lack of run out of D50, but we were full-ground defending very well in that stretch. The mids and wings appeared to be running hard defensively to support the backline, our D50 ground positioning wasn't overly-aggressive so we were defending turnover much better, and our forwards were applying AFL standard pressure to ensure repeat F50 entries.

      Personnel issues are a factor but the drop off in effort when we don't have the ball has been pretty evident in many games in the back-end of the season.
      Bevo went mad and told them all to stop running defensively and defending assertively.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

      Comment

      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13178

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by Sedat
        What happened from R3-11? We were very hard to move the ball against in that stretch where we only lost one match (in Adelaide against Port). It is probably the best stretch of defending when we didn't have the ball during our entire tenure under Bevo. Is it as simple as Jones getting injured, who was covering a lot of our previous sins?
        Would love to know. Assume the club identified it and are trying to implement tweaks to right the ship. The tweaks may be just creating more confusion and uncertainty now though.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

        Comment

        • Hot_Doggies
          Rookie List
          • May 2009
          • 396

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by Sedat
          What happened from R3-11? We were very hard to move the ball against in that stretch where we only lost one match (in Adelaide against Port). It is probably the best stretch of defending when we didn't have the ball during our entire tenure under Bevo. Is it as simple as Jones getting injured, who was covering a lot of our previous sins?
          We did tighten up. We also played some weak sides and others in favourable conditions for low scoring. Port Adelaide, GWS very wet. Freo and Carlton at rock bottom to name a few.

          Comment

          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13178

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
            We did tighten up. We also played some weak sides and others in favourable conditions for low scoring. Port Adelaide, GWS very wet. Freo and Carlton at rock bottom to name a few.
            But we were winning. We're playing the weakest sides right now and losing.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

            Comment

            • Danjul
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1601

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              Would love to know. Assume the club identified it and are trying to implement tweaks to right the ship. The tweaks may be just creating more confusion and uncertainty now though.
              The wins stopped when we dropped Baker. Our fastest through the midfield.

              He had been in good form gaining hundreds of metres to get the ball to the forwards quickly. Prepared to take a bounce. Nice delivery to forwards (usually).

              22 possessions against Geelong, in a game we could have easily won, and discarded.

              Comment

              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13178

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Yeah I'm not convinced dropping Baker was the reason we all started having front row seats to the shit show.

                Jones, JJ and Richards injuries hurt they are three quality starting backs. Perhaps this combined with some absolutely deplorable kicking at goal across the last third of the season has something to do with it as well.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

                Comment

                • Danjul
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 1601

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  Yeah I'm not convinced dropping Baker was the reason we all started having front row seats to the shit show.

                  Jones, JJ and Richards injuries hurt they are three quality starting backs. Perhaps this combined with some absolutely deplorable kicking at goal across the last third of the season has something to do with it as well.
                  We were competitive against Port, but when you look closely at it we were missing Jj and Richards . Two runners. So we dropped Baker to exacerbate the problem.

                  Look at the GWS game. No Jj, no Richards and Baker dropped after being sub the week before. So No leg speed.

                  Then, as you say, very poor goal kicking. Well actually, erratic goal kicking.

                  The forwards had some good hauls, for example JUH got 12 against Freo, Essendon and Richmond but failed when it counted. Weightman similarly. Against GWS the whole forward line contributed only 2 goals for the whole game.

                  Comment

                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5820

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Possible Bubba being let go could be he's too close to the players. It's like when a manager is too friendly and the staff stuff up and because your too involve you can't rip them a good one.
                    Coaches can be friendly but best mates have trouble laying down the law or if they do the mate doesn't take it seriously.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

                    Comment

                    • Danjul
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 1601

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by Hotdog60
                      Possible Bubba being let go could be he's too close to the players. It's like when a manager is too friendly and the staff stuff up and because your too involve you can't rip them a good one.
                      Coaches can be friendly but best mates have trouble laying down the law or if they do the mate doesn't take it seriously.
                      But was the backline the problem.

                      I thought they held up well despite significant injuries. None of the opposition teams kicked massive scores against them. Our losses came from the forwards.

                      Comment

                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65958

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by Danjul
                        But was the backline the problem.

                        I thought they held up well despite significant injuries. None of the opposition teams kicked massive scores against them. Our losses came from the forwards.
                        I said something similar in post #1036
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

                        Comment

                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5820

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by Danjul
                          But was the backline the problem.

                          I thought they held up well despite significant injuries. None of the opposition teams kicked massive scores against them. Our losses came from the forwards.
                          They have done well considering but there have also been some howlers down there.
                          Don't piss off old people
                          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

                          Comment

                          • Vred
                            Senior Player
                            • Nov 2018
                            • 1295

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Meanwhile, two separate posters on BigFooty reporting the following;

                            Bevo has been offered a Severence that would see him paid 50% P/A for the life of his contract or until he took a role equal or higher within the AFL industry, he turned it down.

                            B.Smith is getting interest but not from Geelong.

                            Treloar is getting interest from the Suns as they look to win finals, Hardwick wants to make and win finals as soon as next year so they will be aggressive this trade period.

                            English is still a waiting game. He has been given a Large offer from a Vic club.

                            Lade has another year to go on his contract aswell, he has been offered a change of role but turned it down
                            [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

                            Comment

                            • DOG GOD
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 6378

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              I’m still thinking syd would love a Bailey smith.
                              I will never see #16 the same!!

                              Comment

                              • macca
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2352

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by DOG GOD
                                I’m still thinking syd would love a Bailey smith.
                                Sydney have a habit of improving players in some way.
                                just look at the improvement in Hickey and Patty McCartin

                                Comment

                                Working...