Sharp Axes

[Axe Man]

Re: Sharp Axes

No way Bevo is not coaching next year. After next season we'll know more and it will be far more palatable to have to pay him out one year rather than two.

The simple fact is if we have to give away hard earned money now all the slight profits we've made over the past 3-4 years will be pissed up against a wall.

That money has to come from somewhere within the club and we've also shelled out considerable funds to facilitate the re-development. No way Bains says paying Bevo a two years severance package is in anyway a good idea. No way Bevo takes a compromise and nor should he have to.

Only way is Bevo walks.

We've made our bed.

Did you miss my post above - apparently we only have to pay him out 6 months regardless.

However, like others I also believe Bevo won't be going anywhere, at least for 2024.

[1eyedog]

Re: Sharp Axes

According to the HUN:



If I understand that correctly we would only need to pay him out 6 months worth of his contract, rather than 12 months worth suggested in this BF rumour.

Not sure this is correct every club is assisted by the AFL. The Suns and GWS receive 25m p.a at the top and West Coast receive 11m p.a at the bottom. We're in the middle with the Demons on 16m p.a.

My understanding is any club turning a profit is expected to pay out their personnel if they chose to terminate a contract early.

[1eyedog]

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Did you miss my post above - apparently we only have to pay him out 6 months regardless.

However, like others I also believe Bevo won't be going anywhere, at least for 2024.

Nope didn't miss it I'm just not certain that's correct.

[Axe Man]

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Not sure this is correct every club is assisted by the AFL. The Suns and GWS receive 25m p.a at the top and West Coast receive 11m p.a at the bottom. We're in the middle with the Demons on 16m p.a.

My understanding is any club turning a profit is expected to pay out their personnel if they chose to terminate a contract early.

Fair enough, I've got no idea what the definition of an assisted club is, just going off the HUN article.

[GVGjr]

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Not sure this is correct every club is assisted by the AFL. The Suns and GWS receive 25m p.a at the top and West Coast receive 11m p.a at the bottom. We're in the middle with the Demons on 16m p.a.

My understanding is any club turning a profit is expected to pay out their personnel if they chose to terminate a contract early.

I don't think what the Hun said is correct either. 9 years of consecutive profits, and very solid ones at that, I think would rule us out of
any escape clauses with coaching contracts.
I also believe we are spending close to our limits on the footy department in terms of the soft cap so payouts, no matter how big or small they might be, would have an impact on that for us.

Interesting times given the conflicting positions of what a payout might look like but I agree Bevo will be at the helm again next year unless he made a decision to leave.

[Sedat]

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If Bevo survives the off-season (and my gut-feel is he probably does, rightly or wrongly), he surely understands the leg rope is much shorter now and the power balance has shifted internally. That means he needs to significantly adapt his coaching methodology to fully embrace the modern tactical advancements (by bringing in younger coaching talent from elsewhere who are at the forefront of this tactical landscape), and he also needs to respect that the current coaching structure is not delivering results and he needs another senior head for proper guidance and support in the box.

It's really up to Bevo - if the likes of Hardwick, Thompson and Goodwin can swallow their pride and adapt significantly to achieve almost immediate success, Bevo can as well. He doesn't have anything to lose really - he's playing with house money next year if he survives. More of the same will only shorten his tenure at the Dogs and make him far less attractive to future suitors.

[1eyedog]

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Fair enough, I've got no idea what the definition of an assisted club is, just going off the HUN article.

The AFL paid Cameron out 50% of his contract in early 2022 for the remainder of the season and they also paid 50% of Dew's contract for the remainder of this year and next.

Neither club recorded a profit last financial.

[Bornadog]

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If Bevo survives the off-season (and my gut-feel is he probably does, rightly or wrongly), he surely understands the leg rope is much shorter now and the power balance has shifted internally. That means he needs to significantly adapt his coaching methodology to fully embrace the modern tactical advancements (by bringing in younger coaching talent from elsewhere who are at the forefront of this tactical landscape), and he also needs to respect that the current coaching structure is not delivering results and he needs another senior head for proper guidance and support in the box.

It's really up to Bevo - if the likes of Hardwick, Thompson and Goodwin can swallow their pride and adapt significantly to achieve almost immediate success, Bevo can as well. He doesn't have anything to lose really - he's playing with house money next year if he survives. More of the same will only shorten his tenure at the Dogs and make him far less attractive to future suitors.

Well put Sedat and hopefully he does adapt as we are just short of going the next step. Close enough is not good enough (6 games within 12 points) and we can't make excuses if it keeps happening.

[1eyedog]

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If Bevo survives the off-season (and my gut-feel is he probably does, rightly or wrongly), he surely understands the leg rope is much shorter now and the power balance has shifted internally. That means he needs to significantly adapt his coaching methodology to fully embrace the modern tactical advancements (by bringing in younger coaching talent from elsewhere who are at the forefront of this tactical landscape), and he also needs to respect that the current coaching structure is not delivering results and he needs another senior head for proper guidance and support in the box.

It's really up to Bevo - if the likes of Hardwick, Thompson and Goodwin can swallow their pride and adapt significantly to achieve almost immediate success, Bevo can as well. He doesn't have anything to lose really - he's playing with house money next year if he survives. More of the same will only shorten his tenure at the Dogs and make him far less attractive to future suitors.

Good post agree 100% crazy Bevo having his fingers in all the pies is actually unhealthy. It's actually become toxic now and that's on Bevo.

The guy can coach and the players like him but he needs a slap across the back of the head and some seriously experienced coaching support.

[mjp]

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No way Ch7 wants us stinking up their prime time.

A lot of what we see as 'stink' oppo supporters don't mind...

As a neutral, we offer:

Bont - best player in the comp.
Naughton - Likely to take mark of the year on any given week.
A team that hasn't lost by > 22 points since round 2.
A team that not many other supporters actually 'hate'. Sadly.

We're actually a GOOD team for prime-time.

The whole thing where everyone thinks we're underperforming? I think that's good in terms of primetime games...

[Rocco Jones]

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A lot of what we see as 'stink' oppo supporters don't mind...

As a neutral, we offer:

Bont - best player in the comp.
Naughton - Likely to take mark of the year on any given week.
A team that hasn't lost by > 22 points since round 2.
A team that not many other supporters actually 'hate'. Sadly.

We're actually a GOOD team for prime-time.

The whole thing where everyone thinks we're underperforming? I think that's good in terms of primetime games...

Absolutely.

Bevo is a 'character' too. Pan to him.

[Eastdog]

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If Bevo survives the off-season (and my gut-feel is he probably does, rightly or wrongly), he surely understands the leg rope is much shorter now and the power balance has shifted internally. That means he needs to significantly adapt his coaching methodology to fully embrace the modern tactical advancements (by bringing in younger coaching talent from elsewhere who are at the forefront of this tactical landscape), and he also needs to respect that the current coaching structure is not delivering results and he needs another senior head for proper guidance and support in the box.

It's really up to Bevo - if the likes of Hardwick, Thompson and Goodwin can swallow their pride and adapt significantly to achieve almost immediate success, Bevo can as well. He doesn't have anything to lose really - he's playing with house money next year if he survives. More of the same will only shorten his tenure at the Dogs and make him far less attractive to future suitors.

Like what you saying Sedat. This is my sentiment as well.

If Bevo doesn't go and it is likely he will stay on next year then this change needs to happen going forward.

We have underachieved the last 2 seasons 2022 and 2023. I think if it wasn't for 2021 Bevo might have been in bigger trouble with his position.

The risk is if this doesn't work out then you could see an implosion mid season 2024.

[MrMahatma]

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A lot of what we see as 'stink' oppo supporters don't mind...

As a neutral, we offer:

Bont - best player in the comp.
Naughton - Likely to take mark of the year on any given week.
A team that hasn't lost by > 22 points since round 2.
A team that not many other supporters actually 'hate'. Sadly.

We're actually a GOOD team for prime-time.

The whole thing where everyone thinks we're underperforming? I think that's good in terms of primetime games...

Plus Baz. Instafamous!

[ReLoad]

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Absolutely.

Bevo is a 'character' too. Pan to him.

is it just me or every time they pan to Bevo he looks like Homer Simpson trying to figure something out. Just sitting there showing zero emotion.

[Grantysghost]

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is it just me or every time they pan to Bevo he looks like Homer Simpson trying to figure something out. Just sitting there showing zero emotion.

Ha, he does always look confused that is true.

Like he's looking for where he parked his car and can't quite locate it.

I think it's just his concentrating face.