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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18854

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    While I admire your determination to push that barrow but how realistic do you think it is that Bevo won't be coaching us at least at the start of next year?
    It's a good question.

    What difference has this made to the decision making at the club?

    It shouldn't make any, however not making the finals is a dismal fail.

    I don't mean re Bevo he's safe.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9873

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
      I think beating Geelongs thirds has probably saved him.
      Sadly it's the premature 2yr deal given that will save him. There is no way he should be coach next season.

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      • Funke disco
        WOOF Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 145

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Well, the season is over.

        So hurry up with the change. No time to spare.
        Yep. Let's move on and see what changes we make. Will the team organize exit meetings next week?

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by Funke disco
          Yep. Let's move on and see what changes we make. Will the team organize exit meetings next week?
          I hope so. The task of selling hope starts now.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44184

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            It's a good question.

            What difference has this made to the decision making at the club?

            It shouldn't make any, however not making the finals is a dismal fail.

            I don't mean re Bevo he's safe.
            We've had a season that might be best described as a failure and a dismal failure might have been more around if we were never really in the mix to make the 8. The more realistic supporters will be wanting to see some changes to the footy department and to hear some of the reasons why the club believes we have fallen short on expectations and what will be done to fix it going forward.
            The stronger critics of the clubs performance this year will want some heads to roll and that might happen.

            I wanted us to get into the finals because we are a very capable team on our day but it can be cleansing to say we have fallen well short and start working on a plan to get more from this group. Perhaps limping into the 8 would have been good enough for some supporters but they'll be harder pressed to hide behind our results now.

            It's going to be intriguing to see what happens to our playing list and the direction of the footy department in the next 2 months.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4204

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Earlier in the tread, a few folk were adamant that Bevo would walk if we didn’t make the finals. Framed it around his character and sense of integrity.

              I could never see that happening, hence going hard and early on the sacking component.

              Question for folk who thought he would walk, does it change your assessment of Bevo if he doesn’t?
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11104

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                Sadly it's the premature 2yr deal given that will save him. There is no way he should be coach next season.
                Yep. My comment was tongue in cheek.

                Reality is the same amateurs who re-signed him for multiple years when they didn't need to won't then turn around and sack him, because that would admit a very costly mistake, of which would then be impossible to justify their own jobs.

                I fully expect us to say we've done a review, the conclusions of which pointed to Bevo needing more support, even though that was what we supposedly did last year.

                It's a shambles.
                W00F!

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                • Dancin' Douggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 2877

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Adelaide. With NOTHING to play for. NOOOOTTTHHHIINNGGG!!!
                  Beats the eagles by 8 goals in Perth.

                  This is surely the end of Bevo.
                  Beating the Geelong 3rds to keep our finals hope alive is a rotten cherry on a stale cake.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    Yep. My comment was tongue in cheek.

                    Reality is the same amateurs who re-signed him for multiple years when they didn't need to won't then turn around and sack him, because that would admit a very costly mistake, of which would then be impossible to justify their own jobs.

                    I fully expect us to say we've done a review, the conclusions of which pointed to Bevo needing more support, even though that was what we supposedly did last year.

                    It's a shambles.
                    Anyone thinking the Bevo era is going to get better before it ends is on drugs. And not the good kind.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Sliding Doors:

                      IF ...

                      making two Grand Finals from nine seasons is an excellent record ...

                      THEN ...

                      the ninth season of that reign should not pass without the greatest of internal scrutiny, which is something this club hasn't liked doing since handing the keys - and everything else pertaining to all operations - to Bevo. Something is very wrong, particularly if Bailey Smith asks for a move.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • macca
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2352

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Sliding Doors:

                        IF ...

                        making two Grand Finals from nine seasons is an excellent record ...

                        THEN ...

                        the ninth season of that reign should not pass without the greatest of internal scrutiny, which is something this club hasn't liked doing since handing the keys - and everything else pertaining to all operations - to Bevo. Something is very wrong, particularly if Bailey Smith asks for a move.
                        9th season curse, finishing 9th position its the worst place to finish for draft position.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by macca
                          9th season curse, finishing 9th position its the worst place to finish for draft position.
                          A loss to Geelong and our pick 8 after the McKay compo and two picks probably gets ahead of a Croft bid.

                          But pick 10, into 11, and maybe three bids means our pick is going to 14 and a Croft bid is likely to be made.

                          We desperately need to get that GCS pick with our two firsts. That last half, last night, is more trouble than it was worth.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • SonofScray
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4204

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            While I admire your determination to push that barrow but how realistic do you think it is that Bevo won't be coaching us at least at the start of next year?
                            He will 100% coach next year and it will be to our detriment.

                            What could have been a brief bit of intensity and relatively swift correction is now going to compromise the preseason, next year and relationships at every level of the club. From members to players, to coaches, to the board. Everyone is going to take a hit now.
                            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by SonofScray
                              He will 100% coach next year and it will be to our detriment.

                              What could have been a brief bit of intensity and relatively swift correction is now going to compromise the preseason, next year and relationships at every level of the club. From members to players, to coaches, to the board. Everyone is going to take a hit now.
                              Yep. I was hoping we were at rock bottom. I can’t yet see where rock bottom is from here. But I still think this off season list period is going to be the biggest shot show since 2014. So there’s that in the near term.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18854

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Leon Cameron for Kingsley supports the Bevo out crew.
                                He's really turned them around.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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