Sharp Axes

[Danjul]

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Lame joke - look at my user name.

I was hoping it was referring to your comments at the time. But I did find it amusing.

I made some in 2020 but the standard response was shut up and be grateful for the premiership. When I saw similar things after the bye in 2021 We were top of the ladder so I assumed that they didn?t matter. Seems that they did.

[GVGjr]

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She said "the club is looking at a long list of senior assitant coach candiates that they are going to bring into bolster Bevo and Dew is one of those names so there is going to be some big changes to the football department, more than what we have already seen"

Right at this moment, and I'm not sure why, I think we can do better than bringing in Dew as an assistant coach. Happy to be proven wrong.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Caroline Wilson

"There is huge frustration with Bailey Smith, he is on a huge amount of money, he is clearly a very high maintenace player, several clubs looking at him pies, hawks and cats."

Do we have trouble managing players who aren't choir boys? Stringer, Dahl, Hunter etc? Libba might be the exception. Hunter seems to be doing fine at Melbourne and Jake hasn't been sacked yet. Although the latter is at essendon so who knows.

[G-Mo77]

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Do we have trouble managing players who aren't choir boys? Stringer, Dahl, Hunter etc? Libba might be the exception. Hunter seems to be doing fine at Melbourne and Jake hasn't been sacked yet. Although the latter is at essendon so who knows.

I think the same thing. If Libba wasn't from royal Bulldog blood I reckon he would have been thrown on the scrap heap as well.

[angelopetraglia]

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Do we have trouble managing players who aren't choir boys? Stringer, Dahl, Hunter etc? Libba might be the exception. Hunter seems to be doing fine at Melbourne and Jake hasn't been sacked yet. Although the latter is at essendon so who knows.

On the flip side. Did we lose Dunkley because we tolerated too much of their poor behaviour? (If you listen to some narratives)

[D Mitchell]

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On the flip side. Did we lose Dunkley because we tolerated too much of their poor behaviour? (If you listen to some narratives)

A variation on the narrative you refer to is that disquiet among the players derives from a recent crackdown on poor behaviour. It goes that the club, really Bev, tolerated players letting their hair down off field but that changed and the club is now less tolerant, seen by players as intrusive. The source is from "someone who could be expected to know".

[bulldogtragic]

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A variation on the narrative you refer to is that disquiet among the players derives from a recent crackdown on poor behaviour. It goes that the club, really Bev, tolerated players letting their hair down off field but that changed and the club is now less tolerant, seen by players as intrusive. The source is from "someone who could be expected to know".

Interesting. I remember Clay Smith talking to Mike Sheahan saying that he would hyped after games and that Bevo would allow him (like special dispensation) to let his hair down and have a decent drink after games. Smith said it was important to his management.

Maybe some other folk took/are taking a mile after Bevo gave them an inch. If that’s changed now, you could see why some players might be annoyed that this has been going on for 9 years and now you stop it.

[GVGjr]

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A variation on the narrative you refer to is that disquiet among the players derives from a recent crackdown on poor behaviour. It goes that the club, really Bev, tolerated players letting their hair down off field but that changed and the club is now less tolerant, seen by players as intrusive. The source is from "someone who could be expected to know".

If a coaching team is inconsistent with their behavioral standards then it's going alienate some people at the club. Having just one assistant who's a bit more flexible than the others has the potential to create an issue.
Some of the reports of what happened in 2017 and what some players got away with probably explains why it took a few years to get back into the finals mix. Losing momentum is a real challenge to overcome and we've done that a couple of times under Bevo.

We should accept that some players will take brief detours along the way because it's going to happen but you address it in a mature way once or twice before saying enough is enough.

In the longer term if Bevo has now narrowed that tolerance level it will be a win for the club but there might be some bumps along the way if a player or two try and test his resolve.

[ledge]

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If management and coach are cracking down on party time , why would Smith want out he is a fitness fanatic , would think he would love it .
What’s Caro mean by Smith being hard to manage ?
Also Caro saying all management backing Luke and in the same sentence says there is tension between the two.
Oh and Bailey Williams not happy but signs a 3 year deal.
She is just making up stuff .
She also said Simpson was gone at WC .

[Bornadog]

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If management and coach are cracking down on party time , why would Smith want out he is a fitness fanatic , would think he would love it .
What’s Caro mean by Smith being hard to manage ?
Also Caro saying all management backing Luke and in the same sentence says there is tension between the two.
Oh and Bailey Williams not happy but signs a 3 year deal.
She is just making up stuff .
She also said Simpson was gone at WC .

Hard to manage due to his mental health issues.

Agree she is making things up- Caro says one thing, Tom Morris says he is going nowhere and Ralph keeps changing his mind. None of them know.

[hujsh]

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Hard to manage due to his mental health issues.

Agree she is making things up- Caro says one thing, Tom Morris says he is going nowhere and Ralph keeps changing his mind. None of them know.

Reading between the lines maybe he has said he's open to a trade and if the club gets an offer they like from a team he likes he'll move and if not he'll honor his contact and see where things sit next year (gone if he's not in the middle)

[Bornadog]

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Reading between the lines maybe he has said he's open to a trade and if the club gets an offer they like from a team he likes he'll move and if not he'll honor his contact and see where things sit next year (gone if he's not in the middle)

The CBA noise is actually a bit of rubbish. If you look at his stats here and the last few years, he hasn't been in the centre alot. Even in 2021 he didn't attend a CBA in the PF and only 3 in the semi final.

Again, I say, we don't know what is going on. I think the media has built this up from a few conversations with Geelong, and now Hawks saying well if he is available we would like him.

I guess time will tell.

[bulldogtragic]

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Reading between the lines maybe he has said he's open to a trade and if the club gets an offer they like from a team he likes he'll move and if not he'll honor his contact and see where things sit next year (gone if he's not in the middle)

That’s how it sounds to me. It sounds well postured. We say we won’t trade (like Dunkley/Essendon), while the players manager (I presume) says well he’s prepared to go elsewhere.

Clubs hear that and go after him. We hold firm. If something really juicy comes up, then we decide to keep or trade him.

Not a bad position to be in for all parties.

[ledge]

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It’s quite funny though . When they say other clubs are looking at him .
Wouldn’t all clubs be looking at all players a year before coming out of contract ?
You could ask all the other clubs if they are interested in Smith they would all say yes we would be.

[hujsh]

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The CBA noise is actually a bit of rubbish. If you look at his stats here and the last few years, he hasn't been in the centre alot. Even in 2021 he didn't attend a CBA in the PF and only 3 in the semi final.

Again, I say, we don't know what is going on. I think the media has built this up from a few conversations with Geelong, and now Hawks saying well if he is available we would like him.

I guess time will tell.

We don't know everything but I think given his age and status and poor year it's somewhat likely he feels he needs to have that greater opportunity to show his talent