Sharp Axes

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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On the flip side. Did we lose Dunkley because we tolerated too much of their poor behaviour? (If you listen to some narratives)

It's a good point but perhaps Dunkley was demanding too strict of a standard? It'd be interesting to know how he finds the behaviour at Brisbane.

[GVGjr]

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It’s quite funny though . When they say other clubs are looking at him .
Wouldn’t all clubs be looking at all players a year before coming out of contract ?
You could ask all the other clubs if they are interested in Smith they would all say yes we would be.

As talented as he is not all clubs would want him or would be willing to part with enough to try and get him.
Clubs meet with player managers and have a lot of discussions with then if they have an interest in any of their players.
The player manager weighs up if that is something that might sound tempting to his player. It starts from there.
Occasionally a player manager will also leak information to the media to help along the negotiation from their perspective or create some discussion/speculation.

[Grantysghost]

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As talented as he is not all clubs would want him or would be willing to part with enough to try and get him.
Clubs meet with player managers and have a lot of discussions with then if they have an interest in any of their players.
The player manager weighs up if that is something that might sound tempting to his player. It starts from there.
Occasionally a player manager will also leak information to the media to help along the negotiation from their perspective or create some discussion/speculation.

My strong suspicion is that's what is happening here. I'm starting to think Bailey will seek perceived greener pastures.

[bulldogtragic]

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My strong suspicion is that's what is happening here. I'm starting to think Bailey will seek perceived greener pastures.

But this is ok. He’s under contract. The only way he goes is if we want the trade to happen. So we say we aren’t listening until such point as we get an offer too good to refuse. So let 17 clubs chase him if need be. He can’t play anywhere else next year without our say so.

[Grantysghost]

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But this is ok. He’s under contract. The only way he goes is if we want the trade to happen. So we say we aren’t listening until such point as we get an offer too good to refuse. So let 17 clubs chase him if need be. He can’t play anywhere else next year without our say so.

Yes that's a strong position for us. Unlike when Dunkley pulled the rip cord. Not even a GF appearance could dissuade him.

[ledge]

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Yes that's a strong position for us. Unlike when Dunkley pulled the rip cord. Not even a GF appearance could dissuade him.

Let’s face it Dunkley made the right move. Look at us and the Lions now .

[Bornadog]

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My strong suspicion is that's what is happening here. I'm starting to think Bailey will seek perceived greener pastures.

Except the PM came out the other day to say he is not going anywhere

[Bornadog]

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Let’s face it Dunkley made the right move. Look at us and the Lions now .

[bulldogtragic]

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Yes that's a strong position for us. Unlike when Dunkley pulled the rip cord. Not even a GF appearance could dissuade him.

I suspect he had his mind made up back in 2020. Whenever given a chance by the media to say he would stay around, even after the GF, he never took it.

On the other hand other players have asked for trades, not got them, and then had great careers (see Ryan O’Keefe).

If we wants to stay and we want that too, then great. If there’s a fight between clubs to out bid each other to get him and we got a great result out of a trade, then that’s good too. Multiple clubs going after him, knowing he’s under contract is not a bad position for us.

Our issue is if we just postpone this, and especially Naughton and more English as a RFA next year and all out of contract, that could be disastrous if the club goes very poorly next year and there’s a sacked coach and the joint stinks. So we really need to have all three locked into a contract or a trade. JUH gets signed and re-learns how to kick for goal and becomes a dominant KPF.

[azabob]

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Do you truly believe Dunkley's decision was solely money?

[azabob]

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But this is ok. He’s under contract. The only way he goes is if we want the trade to happen. So we say we aren’t listening until such point as we get an offer too good to refuse. So let 17 clubs chase him if need be. He can’t play anywhere else next year without our say so.

If he asks to go, we move him on. This will be our best chance to maximise what he is worth on the trade table.

Otherwise it will play out like Dunkley 2.0

[GVGjr]

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Do you truly believe Dunkley's decision was solely money?

Some will see it that way as it means you don't have to look at the reasons any deeper and it fits a "greedy player, case closed" narrative.
I don't think it was the primary reason but he wasn't probably going there for a lesser offer than what he could have got from us.

Unlike many players who sign a lucrative deal, Dunks has followed it through with excellent form.

[GVGjr]

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If he asks to go, we move him on. This will be our best chance to maximise what he is worth on the trade table.

Otherwise it will play out like Dunkley 2.0

I agree that we lose just a little bit of power next year if he asks for a move then.

[Bornadog]

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Do you truly believe Dunkley's decision was solely money?

He was always jealous of Bont being number one and the money Bont earns. Yeah he had issues with some players like Hunter, but in the end a long contract with big dollars and ability to live in Qld suited him.

[ledge]

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He was always jealous of Bont being number one and the money Bont earns. Yeah he had issues with some players like Hunter, but in the end a long contract with big dollars and ability to live in Qld suited him.

I would take it , AFL football isn’t a long career . Set yourself up . Live in the sun .
I’m considering moving to QLD soon . When I retire .