Sharp Axes

[Bornadog]

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Also. Can I importantly state. It was never intended to be passed off as legitmate. It was satire from the beginning. As soon as there was anyone actually remotely believing it was legitmate. I clarified that in a heartbeat. Literally within in minutes. There was an entire lead up of posts that we had not heard from KWW. Then this fake email is immediately posted. I thought it was clear that it wasn't legimate from the way it was written. A good re-read will show that it is clearly tongue in cheek.

Intent is important. It was clearly just a joke. There was never any intent to pass it off as something that KWW actually wrote.

It was a fun letter and great discussion and yes I would like to hear from the real KWW.

My questions were looking at the bigger picture. Sounds like anyone can send a fake email/letter and sign some one else's name, which surprised me.

[mjp]

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Intent is important. It was clearly just a joke. There was never any intent to pass it off as something that KWW actually wrote.

Just in support of AP - I thought it was a joke from the start and I thought (even before the edit) he made it pretty clear it was NOT written by the Pres.

I do think this thread has gone completely off the rails and I think we have lost 80+ pages of great content/thoughtful discussion due to one AI generated 'letter to members' and that annoys me as I have no idea how to get it back on track.

Can we reset this now? AP has apologised to all who didn't realise it was intended to be a joke and reiterated on countless occasions he meant no disrespect. So...can we go back to the footy club?? I liked this thread and everytime there was a new post I would click it...right now - not so much.

Please?

[angelopetraglia]

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It was a fun letter and great discussion and yes I would like to hear from the real KWW.

My questions were looking at the bigger picture. Sounds like anyone can send a fake email/letter and sign some one else's name, which surprised me.

In this instance. Original post 5:42pm. As soon as someone even questioned if it was legitmate, I corrected them at 5:49pm.

However, yes with tools like ChatGPT people can imiate public figures very quickly. The next level which is even scarier is that tools are getting so good that you can now do something similar with photos and also video. We will soon not be able to tell the difference between was is fake and what is legitmate.

It is a genuine issue for society moving foward.

[bulldogtragic]

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It was a fun letter and great discussion and yes I would like to hear from the real KWW.

My questions were looking at the bigger picture. Sounds like anyone can send a fake email/letter and sign some one else's name, which surprised me.

It’s a matter of context and intent. There are plenty of free legal resources on the internet if you are interested in this space. I think it will get more interesting as AI deep fakes start to get used in more nefarious ways. It’s worth reading up on the law in this space if you have an interest in it.

[angelopetraglia]

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Just in support of AP - I thought it was a joke from the start and I thought (even before the edit) he made it pretty clear it was NOT written by the Pres.

I do think this thread has gone completely off the rails and I think we have lost 80+ pages of great content/thoughtful discussion due to one AI generated 'letter to members' and that annoys me as I have no idea how to get it back on track.

Can we reset this now? AP has apologised to all who didn't realise it was intended to be a joke and reiterated on countless occasions he meant no disrespect. So...can we go back to the footy club?? I liked this thread and everytime there was a new post I would click it...right now - not so much.

Please?

Thank you and agree. Let's move on.

[Grantysghost]

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I'll try.

Spangher.

Didn't come in without a lot of experience, for mine I thought he'd be the first to go but I have to say the forward line has been pretty solid.

I'm now firmly in the keep camp, maybe with some support around goal kicking?

What do woofers think?

[bulldogtragic]

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I'll try.

Spangher.

Didn't come in without a lot of experience, for mine I thought he'd be the first to go but I have to say the forward line has been pretty solid.

I'm now firmly in the keep camp, maybe with some support around goal kicking?

What do woofers think?

Wouldn’t mind a crack at Jack Riewoldt.

[Bornadog]

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Thank you and agree. Let's move on.

Agree and on that note: Do we think KWW will send a memo, or video to members?

What does the club need to do to ensure we don't lose the record membership numbers? Lots of pissed off people out there.

I want to hear about a proper review, and it should be an independent review of the footy department, structure, lines of reporting, responsibilities and how we go the next step next year.

[The bulldog tragician]

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Agree and on that note: Do we think KWW will send a memo, or video to members?

What does the club need to do to ensure we don't lose the record membership numbers? Lots of pissed off people out there.

I want to hear about a proper review, and it should be an independent review of the footy department, structure, lines of reporting, responsibilities and how we go the next step next year.

I agree, but Ahmet has also stated it will be done by the club, which is very disappointing.

[JanLorMill]

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I'll get the grinder to sharpen that axe

[bulldogtragic]

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I agree, but Ahmet has also stated it will be done by the club, which is very disappointing.

I agree. This is a great opportunity to find every 1%+ improvement in every part of the club. Why we wouldn’t want to that is really strange. It could be the reflection point we look back on and say ‘that external report and our implementation of it was the catalyst for a period of sustained success’.

I just don’t get why we want to self assess ourselves again and have the subconscious bias get in the way of a truly honest perspective about getting better to have the success we all want.

It’s a really poor decision.

[Grantysghost]

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Wouldn’t mind a crack at Jack Riewoldt.

That's a very good idea. One of the best of the modern era.

[azabob]

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Also. Can I importantly state. It was never intended to be passed off as legitmate. It was satire from the beginning. As soon as there was anyone actually remotely believing it was legitmate. I clarified that in a heartbeat. Literally within in minutes. There was an entire lead up of posts that we had not heard from KWW. Then this fake email is immediately posted. I thought it was clear that it wasn't legimate from the way it was written. A good re-read will show that it is clearly tongue in cheek.

Intent is important. It was clearly just a joke. There was never any intent to pass it off as something that KWW actually wrote.

The problem is AP, some woof posters are under the impression articles that have the "subtle link" to them and then copied and pasted in full are written by the person who posted it.

[azabob]

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I'll try.

Spangher.

Didn't come in without a lot of experience, for mine I thought he'd be the first to go but I have to say the forward line has been pretty solid.

I'm now firmly in the keep camp, maybe with some support around goal kicking?

What do woofers think?

A mate of mine said Spangher into a development role.

[The bulldog tragician]

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I agree. This is a great opportunity to find every 1%+ improvement in every part of the club. Why we wouldn’t want to that is really strange. It could be the reflection point we look back on and say ‘that external report and our implementation of it was the catalyst for a period of sustained success’.

I just don’t get why we want to self assess ourselves again and have the subconscious bias get in the way of a truly honest perspective about getting better to have the success we all want.

It’s a really poor decision.

What if, hypothetically, Bains is part of the problem? Is mean with valuable resources ? Interferes unnecessarily? Is rude and unapproachable? I’m making all this up, obviously, but genuine reviews look at every part of the equation. Also it’s pretty hard to review colleagues that are friends. Within a very weird kind of workplace too, subject to 55000+ opinions, emotions, and the views of Kane Cornes. I just think we need something fresh and more open.