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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21540

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    I'd be pushing Naughton to CHF as it plays to his strengths. Great athlete who could run back hard into the 50 too. Put the onus on Marra and Lobb to be our 'finishers' aka deeper forwards. Lobb finished the year well and we started looking for him more.

    Naughton should essentially play the Carey and Riewoldt type role. Work up to the wings, be an option for our half backs, push hard I50 when the chance presents.

    Will still kick his goals, but I think he becomes too stationary and easy to play against when he plays deep. Needless to say, he'll never be a reliable finisher anyway.
    Notwithstanding my post earlier in the thread, he's actually reasonable at getting separation after a lead up mark and kicking to the overlap forward. CHF is about as far up the ground I'd play him.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • kruder
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2011
      • 3768

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Might need to change this thread to blunt axes at the kennel a little surprised that we haven't seen more change yet. Surely we aren't changing a few assistants and fitness staff and hoping for the best?

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      • Vred
        Senior Player
        • Nov 2018
        • 1295

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by kruder
        Might need to change this thread to blunt axes at the kennel a little surprised that we haven't seen more change yet. Surely we aren't changing a few assistants and fitness staff and hoping for the best?
        That's exactly what will be happening from what I'm being told.

        Also sounds like Grant will be staying on, so all 3 of Ameet, Bevo and Grant stay.

        If next year is a failure we know exactly who to blame.
        [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15194

          Re: Sharp Axes

          If there are no major off field changes surely the board will provide the members and supporters an insight into what the "review" found.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14087

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Is it is bad as they say it is?
            We lost a few games by under a goal.
            Yes we expected to make finals and it’s unacceptable we didn’t.
            We did have bad luck in games as well losing players at critical times.
            Do we need to make big changes ?
            In retrospect we were what Collingwood were last year except we lost the close ones.
            We trained out of our home most of the year.
            I am just looking at it at another angle .
            Bring back the biff

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44183

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by Vred
              That's exactly what will be happening from what I'm being told.

              Also sounds like Grant will be staying on, so all 3 of Ameet, Bevo and Grant stay.

              If next year is a failure we know exactly who to blame.
              I don't think many would be surprised by the likely scenario that Bains, Beveridge and Grant will all be at the club next year.
              Bains is overseeing a huge upgrade to the WO and his job would be to grow the membership base and to attract sponsors. By most measures he would be seen to have done a terrific job but now has to help to get our on field results back to a more successful level.

              Beveridge has a two year deal in front of him and despite a poor season the club will endeavor to work through the challenges with him. We also need to consider that in the unlikely scenario that we were to part with him that any payout would have to be funded from the footy department which would have a significant impact.

              Grant has started to impose his view on how the footy department will be set-up going forward and is slowly wrestling some control from Beveridge. That was never going to be an easy task so there will be an adjustment period. Setting up the footy department for success is the challenge in front of him.

              There were a few reasons that contributed to our poor season and it's now really important that the 3 of them get things sorted.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Bumper Bulldogs
                Coaching Staff
                • Apr 2008
                • 2906

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I don't think many would be surprised by the likely scenario that Bains, Beveridge and Grant will all be at the club next year.
                Bains is overseeing a huge upgrade to the WO and his job would be to grow the membership base and to attract sponsors. By most measures he would be seen to have done a terrific job but now has to help to get our on field results back to a more successful level.

                Beveridge has a two year deal in front of him and despite a poor season the club will endeavor to work through the challenges with him. We also need to consider that in the unlikely scenario that we were to part with him that any payout would have to be funded from the footy department which would have a significant impact.

                Grant has started to impose his view on how the footy department will be set-up going forward and is slowly wrestling some control from Beveridge. That was never going to be an easy task so there will be an adjustment period. Setting up the footy department for success is the challenge in front of him.

                There were a few reasons that contributed to our poor season and it's now really important that the 3 of them get things sorted.
                I agree. I honestly think we were not far off it this year. But something happened 3/4 the way through. The Jones injury. That aside things would have been a lot different if Smith had finished off the year as he started it. Grant, Bevo and Power really need to sort this situation out as I?m not sure that this group of players will play consistent footy while we have so much noise around Bailey Smith

                JUH, Arty, JOD, West and Scott all have the potential for massive improvement in them. Add back in a fit JJ, Jones, Lobb and we are a top 4 side.

                We just need a tough speedy mid and to kick straight. Simple really isn?t it
                BB.

                Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                • Vred
                  Senior Player
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 1295

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  As I'm told, Bevo has taken a significant pay cut in this next contract, allowing for us to chase the assistant coaches and football department staff we need for success, so for all his failures this year as a coach, at least we have that to look to as a plus side.
                  [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65958

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by Vred
                    As I'm told, Bevo has taken a significant pay cut in this next contract, allowing for us to chase the assistant coaches and football department staff we need for success, so for all his failures this year as a coach, at least we have that to look to as a plus side.
                    That is the sort of person Bevo is.
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                    • MrMahatma
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3965

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by ledge
                      Is it is bad as they say it is?
                      We lost a few games by under a goal.
                      Yes we expected to make finals and it’s unacceptable we didn’t.
                      We did have bad luck in games as well losing players at critical times.
                      Do we need to make big changes ?
                      In retrospect we were what Collingwood were last year except we lost the close ones.
                      We trained out of our home most of the year.
                      I am just looking at it at another angle .
                      I actually think this is close to it. Agree we lost close ones and if you flip even 3 of those we're all on here expecting a finals win on the weekend. Injury didn't help in the GWS loss, and some poor kicking cost us vs Hawks and possibly others. Swans? Losing to WC is unacceptable no matter the circumstances though.

                      So I think it's not as bad as it might seem, but not as good either. Winning the close matches would sort the ladder out but would we be a genuine premiership threat? Are we gonna beat the Lions at home this year?

                      We definitely need a review. We definitely need some change.

                      We've already moved on 2 assistant coaches and sounds like our fitness guy. Change is happening.

                      I'm already feeling good about next season.

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                      • MrMahatma
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3965

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by Vred
                        As I'm told, Bevo has taken a significant pay cut in this next contract, allowing for us to chase the assistant coaches and football department staff we need for success, so for all his failures this year as a coach, at least we have that to look to as a plus side.
                        I think this is awesome from Bevo, plus complete madness that he has to do that while the suits at Head Office count their bonuses.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18854

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by MrMahatma
                          I think this is awesome from Bevo, plus complete madness that he has to do that while the suits at Head Office count their bonuses.
                          I can't see Bevo doing that and nor should he.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44183

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by Vred
                            As I'm told, Bevo has taken a significant pay cut in this next contract, allowing for us to chase the assistant coaches and football department staff we need for success, so for all his failures this year as a coach, at least we have that to look to as a plus side.
                            It speaks a bit about the quality of Bevo and his intentions for the club if that is true. Some other coaches jumped on that a couple of years back and if it means we pick up some extra resources then that has to help.
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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18854

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              It speaks a bit about the quality of Bevo and his intentions for the club if that is true. Some other coaches jumped on that a couple of years back and if it means we pick up some extra resources then that has to help.
                              Less money or restructure of contract. Why on earth should he do the former? I mean, I get he's a nice guy and probably a liberal it's unlikely he's got a copy of Das Kapital under his pillow though.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11820

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Less money or restructure of contract. Why on earth should he do the former? I mean, I get he's a nice guy and probably a liberal it's unlikely he's got a copy of Das Kapital under his pillow though.
                                Maybe the deal is Bevo gets paid less but does less work and has a better quality of life? Sometimes the money means less if you can't enjoy it due to working 24/7 most of the year
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