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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by bornadog
    2015-2023:


    Ken - 4 finals series, W/L 2/5, 0 GFs, 0 Flags.
    Bevo - 6 finals series, W/L 7/5, 2GFs, 1 Flag.


    Guess which coach Kane is calling for the head of?
    Ken?
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44183

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Ken?
      Hinkley.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7295

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by jeemak
        One of the questions I have is, is there another Michael Voss among the candidates for vacant coaching positions? Someone who has done it once and ****ed it up, and is ready to go again after doing the ground work at other clubs.

        To me he's in his own category as a "new" coach, and credit to him for sticking with it.
        Last coach to win a flag at his second club was Mick Malthouse. He then went and won another with his third club.

        So whilst I don't disagree with you, recent history says you either win it with club#1 or you don't win it at all...
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • Topdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7471

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I said this a little while ago in another thread, but didn't get any support from other posters.

          Last year we were the number one centre clearance side, and we stopped the rot from the GF debacle. This year we have slipped right back, even though Tim is now one of the best tap ruckman. What changed from last year? Yes Dunkley is gone, but he never really attended many CBAs, Macrae is no longer in the centre? and Lade has taken over the mids.
          We really didnt though, everything that we have seen with regards to capitulating in quarters is just an extension of what we did last year.

          In regards to Lade, yep our midfield work has regressed this season so questions need to be asked.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65958

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by Topdog
            We really didnt though, everything that we have seen with regards to capitulating in quarters is just an extension of what we did last year.

            In regards to Lade, yep our midfield work has regressed this season so questions need to be asked.
            I did say last year CBAs - that has gone this year.
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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by bornadog
              I did say last year CBAs - that has gone this year.
              You did but whilst we were winning CBAs we were conceding 6 goals without scoring 1 so it was kinda pointless

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65958

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by Topdog
                You did but whilst we were winning CBAs we were conceding 6 goals without scoring 1 so it was kinda pointless
                Is there a stat for that or just gut feel? I know this year we were pretty average:

                Five-plus goal streaks conceded in 2023


                23 - West Coast
                16 - Hawthorn, North Melbourne
                13 - Gold Coast
                11 - Western Bulldogs
                9 - Essendon
                8 - Fremantle
                7 - Adelaide, Richmond, St Kilda
                6 - Greater Western Sydney
                5 - Carlton, Collingwood, Port Adelaide, Sydney
                4 - Brisbane, Geelong, Melbourne
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                • macca
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2352

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  2015-2023:


                  Ken - 4 finals series, W/L 2/5, 0 GFs, 0 Flags.
                  Bevo - 6 finals series, W/L 7/5, 2GFs, 1 Flag.


                  Guess which coach Kane is calling for the head of?
                  Not sure what Port are going to do with Hinkley????
                  I almost was reminded of the sound of music : what to do with Maria?

                  Back him another year and he fails, media storm will be brewing of wasted list , poor coaching etc?.. Or sack him and get another coach

                  I had them as flag favourites when they smashed Brisbane in the early round
                  The resigning may have been premature.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Is there a stat for that or just gut feel? I know this year we were pretty average:

                    Five-plus goal streaks conceded in 2023


                    23 - West Coast
                    16 - Hawthorn, North Melbourne
                    13 - Gold Coast
                    11 - Western Bulldogs
                    9 - Essendon
                    8 - Fremantle
                    7 - Adelaide, Richmond, St Kilda
                    6 - Greater Western Sydney
                    5 - Carlton, Collingwood, Port Adelaide, Sydney
                    4 - Brisbane, Geelong, Melbourne
                    I posted a thread about it last year as it absolutely killed me. Going through each game was painful.

                    Found the thread

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21539

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by macca
                      Not sure what Port are going to do with Hinkley????
                      I almost was reminded of the sound of music : what to do with Maria?

                      Back him another year and he fails, media storm will be brewing of wasted list , poor coaching etc?.. Or sack him and get another coach

                      I had them as flag favourites when they smashed Brisbane in the early round
                      The resigning may have been premature.
                      He'll have the best ruckman in the league next year so the sky's the limit!

                      I kid, I kid. He's a bit of a Koala given his poor finals record versus his tenure. I guess the twang and colloquialisms he speaks in resonate with the media types.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18854

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        He'll have the best ruckman in the league next year so the sky's the limit!

                        I kid, I kid. He's a bit of a Koala given his poor finals record versus his tenure. I guess the twang and colloquialisms he speaks in resonate with the media types.
                        Has the Cats and Port media people right in his corner.
                        I remember BMac had similar from Cats people like Ling and Mooney.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65958

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          I posted a thread about it last year as it absolutely killed me. Going through each game was painful.

                          Found the thread
                          https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showth...fic&highlight=
                          Thanks for that.
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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6923

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Has the Cats and Port media people right in his corner.
                            I remember BMac had similar from Cats people like Ling and Mooney.
                            Helps he doesn't attack the media like Bevo ha!

                            Bevo said of Kane Cornes 'I don't know how people around you can live with you, how they can lie in bed with you, how they can look at themselves in the mirror'.

                            Bevo literally assaulted Damian Barrett in a toilet.

                            Bevo smashed Tom Morris in that press and the grubs generally stick together.

                            Yep some guys are on easy street with the media but of course Bevo is going to get hated on when we struggle. He has not helped himself at all.

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                            • MrMahatma
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3965

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              Helps he doesn't attack the media like Bevo ha!

                              Bevo said of Kane Cornes 'I don't know how people around you can live with you, how they can lie in bed with you, how they can look at themselves in the mirror'.

                              Bevo literally assaulted Damian Barrett in a toilet.

                              Bevo smashed Tom Morris in that press and the grubs generally stick together.

                              Yep some guys are on easy street with the media but of course Bevo is going to get hated on when we struggle. He has not helped himself at all.
                              And that's only what's on the public record! You'd gotta imagine he's had words with them all face-to-face or on the phone at some point.

                              It does put pressure on himself, and I think he could've phrased a few of his attacks better. That said, I kinda like that he throws the odd haymaker.

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6923

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by MrMahatma
                                And that's only what's on the public record! You'd gotta imagine he's had words with them all face-to-face or on the phone at some point.

                                It does put pressure on himself, and I think he could've phrased a few of his attacks better. That said, I kinda like that he throws the odd haymaker.
                                Me too. All of that. Not trying to have a go at him. He doesn't suffer fools, he isn't really into being the bigger person if he feels he is in the right and he feels any hill is worth dying on. The AFL media are generally gross af and Bevo is righteous af. Not a good mix.

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