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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21540

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by Doc26
    Jee I dont wish to make much of Bevo?s 2023 BnF speech as we all have our off moments, and particularly with the back drop of an internal review currently underway, being lead by his manager, a number of his coaching team departing, and Bevo himself no doubt still disappointed by the way the season unfolded, and as such he is no doubt feeling the pressure and strain.

    So no big deal if its isolated to a single speech, and not part of the current and daily dynamic at the Club.

    So with that said, and with reference to your question above, here?s a comparative speech of Bevo?s taken from the 2021 BnF, this off the back of the heart break of the 2021 loss to the Dees. Jump to around the 4 to 6 minute mark if you want to hear all those that he acknowledges for their support. He?s very thorough and doesn?t miss any, and calls out Chris and Ameet for their support.



    Note you may need to reload the url on selection to enable the play button.
    So basically all the same thanks, with Grant and Baines as the exceptions! Been a tough couple of years.......

    Thanks for posting.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11820

      Re: Sharp Axes

      I think everyone outside the clubs knows there's just a stink around us they don't want to be associated with. They don't see the club as a place that will set them up for success and don't want to be involved with the people running the show. I think it's bigger than Bevo. Smorgon or someone needs to do (or organise more likely) some proper digging into what's going on at the club
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15194

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by hujsh
        I think everyone outside the clubs knows there's just a stink around us they don't want to be associated with. They don't see the club as a place that will set them up for success and don't want to be involved with the people running the show. I think it's bigger than Bevo. Smorgon or someone needs to do (or organise more likely) some proper digging into what's going on at the club
        The only highlight over the past two years has been the mens VFL 10-11 game winning stretch.

        AFLM and AFLW seniors have been terrible to bog average.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3702

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by hujsh
          I think everyone outside the clubs knows there's just a stink around us they don't want to be associated with. They don't see the club as a place that will set them up for success and don't want to be involved with the people running the show. I think it's bigger than Bevo. Smorgon or someone needs to do (or organise more likely) some proper digging into what's going on at the club
          Its much bigger than just Bevo. I feel for him. The senior club administrators have let him down in regards to assistant coach appointments. They have to be accountable for our demise since 2021. As does Bevo, but he seems to be flying solo without a lot of support.
          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7706

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by hujsh
            I think everyone outside the clubs knows there's just a stink around us they don't want to be associated with. They don't see the club as a place that will set them up for success and don't want to be involved with the people running the show. I think it's bigger than Bevo. Smorgon or someone needs to do (or organise more likely) some proper digging into what's going on at the club
            Has everything turned to shit since Gordon left?

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11820

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by azabob
              The only highlight over the past two years has been the mens VFL 10-11 game winning stretch.

              AFLM and AFLW seniors have been terrible to bog average.
              Hell outside of 21 the best we've achieved is barely scraping into finals before losing embarrassingly (maybe the 2020 final against St.Kilda you might say wasn't embarrassing but it kinda was when you watch it)
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11820

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                Has everything turned to shit since Gordon left?
                At the end of 2020? You could say we were performing poorly before then but we were at least trending up and had the off field pieces in place. Managed to use what was left to reach a GF. On the other hand you can point to covid and the soft cap reduction as the beginning of the talent exodus so hard to say if it started with him or not.
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18854

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                  Has everything turned to shit since Gordon left?
                  Hard man to replace. I wouldn't say turned to shit, however there's some concerning outcomes that's for sure.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Danjul
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1601

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    Hell outside of 21 the best we've achieved is barely scraping into finals before losing embarrassingly (maybe the 2020 final against St.Kilda you might say wasn't embarrassing but it kinda was when you watch it)
                    From the last seven years 2021 was the only year when we had a dominant season (top of the ladder after round 20) and won a final.

                    It was uplifting. Non Bulldog supporters were interested in the team and the club.

                    Amazing to see that good will trashed.

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                    • Danjul
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 1601

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      At the end of 2020? You could say we were performing poorly before then but we were at least trending up and had the off field pieces in place. Managed to use what was left to reach a GF. On the other hand you can point to covid and the soft cap reduction as the beginning of the talent exodus so hard to say if it started with him or not.
                      A bad look.

                      Probably why the club can?t attract people. Had to overpay for Lobb and he needed us a lot more than we needed him.

                      After 2021 we should have had quality lining up to join.

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                      • Before I Die
                        Senior Player
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1031

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        I believe it’s correct that Beveridge has the highest win/loss percentage of any Western Bulldogs/Footscray coach. I’m not saying that puts him beyond criticism, but implying his time as coach has been unsuccessful does seem unreasonable.
                        The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by Danjul
                          A bad look.

                          Probably why the club can?t attract people. Had to overpay for Lobb and he needed us a lot more than we needed him.

                          After 2021 we should have had quality lining up to join.
                          Well back to thread topic, it’s just whether Bevo goes next season and details the year. Or the end of next year or we penny pinch and let 2025 pass us by too.

                          The plan was to get the best people (Trump voice) to put around Bevo. The best people don’t want to do it. So now what’s the plan? Just let Bevo be Bevo until his time expires?

                          The plan is in tatters.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11820

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by Danjul
                            A bad look.

                            Probably why the club can?t attract people. Had to overpay for Lobb and he needed us a lot more than we needed him.

                            After 2021 we should have had quality lining up to join.
                            To clarify, I mean off field. A lot of staff have left (Maple, King, Hansen, Gia, maybe some I'm forgetting) and we've struggled to find notable replacements going so far as to get a guy that wasn't actually coaching to suddenly be a line coach.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11820

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Well back to thread topic, it’s just whether Bevo goes next season and details the year. Or the end of next year or we penny pinch and let 2025 pass us by too.

                              The plan was to get the best people (Trump voice) to put around Bevo. The best people don’t want to do it. So now what’s the plan? Just let Bevo be Bevo until his time expires?

                              The plan is in tatters.
                              IMO you can't replace Bevo until you replace the people replacing Bevo first. We'll end up with the bag man from Essendon as head coach the way we're going now
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by hujsh
                                IMO you can't replace Bevo until you replace the people replacing Bevo first. We'll end up with the bag man from Essendon as head coach the way we're going now
                                They’re safe, so until there’s a board challenge to shake things up, we are stuck on a plane with no pilot just waiting to run out of fuel. Worse will be if some of the good players find the stash of parachutes. But we’re committed, F1 and all, so be it.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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