Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

[EasternWest]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

I actually think he kicks the ball really well under pressure.

I agree with this. His kicking looks good to me and will only get better in time.

[1eyedog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

I agree with this. His kicking looks good to me and will only get better in time.

There was a play, not sure where it was maybe Ballarat, where he spoilt the ball, scooped it up, took off and delivered a lace out 20 metre pass along the boundary running flat out with a forward on his back.

I thought here we go there's probably only 25% of players across the competition that could make that kick and this bloke is a Cat B rookie and nearly 6'6.

[EasternWest]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

There was a play, not sure where it was maybe Ballarat, where he spoilt the ball, scooped it up, took off and delivered a lace out 20 metre pass along the boundary running flat out with a forward on his back.

I thought here we go there's probably only 25% of players across the competition that could make that kick and this bloke is a Cat B rookie and nearly 6'6.

Stop I'm excited just reading that.

[1eyedog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

Stop I'm excited just reading that.

It was probably a fluke.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

We need to see more. I'm excited. Really excited. My prediction is he will make it as an elite defender.

However, we should just temper our exitement a little. I think I read this actually on this forum, many moons ago. But for players with less than 20 games, we judget them differently. We look at things through rose coloured glasses. We elevate the exciting parts (i.e. the elite kick in Ballarat) but we forvive the negative elements easily and put it down to lack of experience. We don't give experienced players the same leeway.

[1eyedog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

We need to see more. I'm excited. Really excited. My prediction is he will make it as an elite defender.

However, we should just temper our exitement a little. I think I read this actually on this forum, many moons ago. But for players with less than 20 games, we judget them differently. We look at things through rose coloured glasses. We elevate the exciting parts (i.e. the elite kick in Ballarat) but we forvive the negative elements easily and put it down to lack of experience. We don't give experienced players the same leeway.

Stop interrupting my healing process angelo!

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

Stop interrupting my healing process angelo!

Ha .......

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

We need to see more. I'm excited. Really excited. My prediction is he will make it as an elite defender.

However, we should just temper our exitement a little. I think I read this actually on this forum, many moons ago. But for players with less than 20 games, we judget them differently. We look at things through rose coloured glasses. We elevate the exciting parts (i.e. the elite kick in Ballarat) but we forvive the negative elements easily and put it down to lack of experience. We don't give experienced players the same leeway.

A Sockeye Salmon rule, wasn't it?

Who had a better debut, Lewis Young or JOD? .....

[hujsh]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

A Sockeye Salmon rule, wasn't it?

Who had a better debut, Lewis Young or JOD? .....

They're inverse of eachother. Young had a great first game and over time his weaknesses were exposed. JOD was quiet initially but built up once moved to defence and began to show what he's capable of, finishing the year strongly.

Prefer JOD's trajectory even if Young's first game is arguably better than JODs best game thus far (and to be fair it was only years later Young would have a game as good as that again)

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

A Sockeye Salmon rule, wasn't it?

Who had a better debut, Lewis Young or JOD? .....

Possibly. But I think I read it here and it has always reasonated since.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

They're inverse of eachother. Young had a great first game and over time his weaknesses were exposed. JOD was quiet initially but built up once moved to defence and began to show what he's capable of, finishing the year strongly.

Prefer JOD's trajectory even if Young's first game is arguably better than JODs best game thus far (and to be fair it was only years later Young would have a game as good as that again)

Yeh my point was that Young had an impressive first game which he has never replicated. JOD had an impressive end to the season but there are no guarantees that he progresses to the kpd we want and need.

I definitely wasn't trying to say that Young is better, just reinforcing the relevance of the 20 game rule.

[hujsh]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

Possibly. But I think I read it here and it has always reasonated since.

Sockeye Salmon a poster from the Rocket era of WOOF used to state it often. Before 20 games they're world beaters and after 20 games they're duds that should be delisted (I've forgotten the exact words)

[hujsh]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

Yeh my point was that Young had an impressive first game which he has never replicated. JOD had an impressive end to the season but there are no guarantees that he progresses to the kpd we want and need.

I definitely wasn't trying to say that Young is better, just reinforcing the relevance of the 20 game rule.

Definitely no guarantees and didn't think you were saying Young was better. I do think there is more cause for optimism with JOD than there was with Young. Patton really had him retreat into his shell and (so far) nothing really equivalent has shown itself in JODs game.

[EasternWest]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

Definitely no guarantees and didn't think you were saying Young was better. I do think there is more cause for optimism with JOD than there was with Young. Patton really had him retreat into his shell and (so far) nothing really equivalent has shown itself in JODs game.

No shade on Young but JOD looks like he's up for the fight.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: James O'Donnell

I think the thing that makes me think his kicking (and marking/ spoiling attempts for that matter) is going to be OK, is that even after a few bad ones/ misses he still kicks the ball with intent/ confidence.

That was a big issue for Lew Young.