Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

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  • BornInDroopSt'54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 5286

    #16
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

    If no injuries, no change to a winning team, O'Donnell included.
    It would be ridiculous having selected him in such a manner, a very deliberate, considered and bold selection, win then say our bad...
    Footscray Football Republic.

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    • EasternWest
      Hall of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 10002

      #17
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

      Beveridge almost never takes out a first gamer after one game. I think JOD plays again.
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • Danjul
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 1624

        #18
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

        Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
        If no injuries, no change to a winning team, O'Donnell included.
        It would be ridiculous having selected him in such a manner, a very deliberate, considered and bold selection, win then say our bad...
        Cannot agree with this. There are better four letter words than bold that could be applied.

        It was not a sensible selection decision and until the last 3 or 4 minutes it had put our season at risk.

        The win was despite selection decisions. This club was in a grand final two years ago. What?s been going on since then?

        Carlton forwards threw away the game in the first half with some of the worst shots at goal that I have ever seen. We won because our backmen played exceptionally well both individually and as a cohesive group under enormous pressure. The 5 consecutive goals that Carlton put together could have also happened earlier but they prevented them.

        That functionality was missing on the forward line (except for the last 5 minutes) and that should be addressed. I saw improvement but we need better forward craft to enhance good individual efforts.


        Since when does a feel-good selection outweigh a tactically sound decision?

        He might be a superstar down the track, I hope so, but last night was an insult to a few players who are working hard and would probably have done better.

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        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6932

          #19
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

          Of course we should always to improve our side as much as possible but I think as fans we can massively overrate the effect of the 22nd guy picked. They aren't the ones really winning or losing the game. Again, want to stress, of course we do what we can to improve the side as much as possible.

          With JOD, I think it was largely tactically related to the opponent. I feel dropping him after one game would be a bit different. Crows are pretty dangerous with the smalls and quality small users.

          I'd say JOD out but can definitely live with him being in or a sub. McNeil either comes in or plays a full one at VFL level. I am really huge on filling the side out with runners or guys who can play a role as small or medium forward. Bevo isn't going to let a player he doesn't fully trust with CBAs, so no point really picking West or McLean unless they look great forward in the VFL. VDM or perhaps Hannan.

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          • dadsgirl16
            Draftee
            • Sep 2008
            • 732

            #20
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

            Watching the VFL game..none of this lot are going to get selected!

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13237

              #21
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

              Originally posted by Danjul
              Cannot agree with this. There are better four letter words than bold that could be applied.

              It was not a sensible selection decision and until the last 3 or 4 minutes it had put our season at risk.

              The win was despite selection decisions. This club was in a grand final two years ago. What?s been going on since then?

              Carlton forwards threw away the game in the first half with some of the worst shots at goal that I have ever seen. We won because our backmen played exceptionally well both individually and as a cohesive group under enormous pressure. The 5 consecutive goals that Carlton put together could have also happened earlier but they prevented them.

              That functionality was missing on the forward line (except for the last 5 minutes) and that should be addressed. I saw improvement but we need better forward craft to enhance good individual efforts.


              Since when does a feel-good selection outweigh a tactically sound decision?

              He might be a superstar down the track, I hope so, but last night was an insult to a few players who are working hard and would probably have done better.
              Agree 100% with everything you've said.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Hotdog60
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 5914

                #22
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                Originally posted by dadsgirl16
                Watching the VFL game..none of this lot are going to get selected!
                agree, if it wasn't for the bad kicking this game would be done and dusted.
                Don't piss off old people
                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6932

                  #23
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                  Originally posted by dadsgirl16
                  Watching the VFL game..none of this lot are going to get selected!
                  Maybe Cleary.

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                  • josie
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 4520

                    #24
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                    Originally posted by dadsgirl16
                    Watching the VFL game..none of this lot are going to get selected!
                    Cleary is probably best but yeah, pretty poor. West undisciplined (win a free kick with great tackle and play tough guy only to rightly have it reversed, the 50 after that was poor umpiring though) and cannot believe he did not put his body over the ball rather than lean back when kicking for goal. He is better than that and is only letting himself down.
                    Josie :)

                    Our day will come
                    And we'll have everything.
                    We'll share the joy
                    Just like '54 again.

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                    • D Mitchell
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 652

                      #25
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                      Originally posted by Hotdog60
                      agree, if it wasn't for the bad kicking this game would be done and dusted.
                      19 scoring shots to 24. Give 'em 3 of the 4 difference in the 1st Quarter, we still win. Don't change a winning side unless
                      (a) there's a gun, treloar, to come back in; or
                      (b) ?

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                      • D Mitchell
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 652

                        #26
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                        Originally posted by EasternWest
                        Beveridge almost never takes out a first gamer after one game. I think JOD plays again.
                        and why not ? the jump from VFL to AFL ? 3 games is the least. Jones took 5 games to score and now he's exhaulted as the next Lally Bamblett.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14972

                          #27
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                          Originally posted by dadsgirl16
                          Watching the VFL game..none of this lot are going to get selected!
                          I really like the signs Charlie Clarke is showing. Just a few 'smart' things that would translate well to AFL. He might be ready in a few weeks.
                          Cleary is an AFL player, just needs opportunity and time.

                          Hoping Treloar is right to go.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6932

                            #28
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            I really like the signs Charlie Clarke is showing. Just a few 'smart' things that would translate well to AFL. He might be ready in a few weeks.
                            Cleary is an AFL player, just needs opportunity and time.

                            Hoping Treloar is right to go.
                            I was going to say the same about Clarke. His performance today a bit like the opposite of when McLean gets it 40+ times in the VFL in terms of translation to AFL.

                            Clearly and TOB our two best from what I've seen but I think spot in our side would be for a small/medium forward and/or runner. Clearly would mean perhaps Dale moves up the ground.

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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6932

                              #29
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                              Watching most of that VFL game, I'd go with McNeil starting and either JOD or Cleary as sub. I like Cleary but we either have to drop Doc or move Dale up the ground for him to fit I think.

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                              • SlimPickens
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2929

                                #30
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 10 v Adelaide

                                Bring McNeil in. Make JOD the sub.

                                5 day break for the VFL doesn’t helped. Although noted McLean played limited minutes in the VFL so might be a consideration
                                "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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