Round 22 - The season proper over, whose career ends

[bulldogtragic]

By now the club is looking at least three kids in the draft never mind more or trades.

The club in due diligence would have made it's mind up with some players. I can't imagine there would be any time left to redeem themselves in a few weeks, bearing in mind the team wont change dramatically in the finals.

I am not suggesting any of the names in the poll i think should go, but rather have them there for voting.

Doogs is gone. To be in the poll you should nominate at least two more players and any commentary would be good.

For me:

Doogs retired
O'Shea delisted and to the rookie list
Skipper delisted
West retired
Street to be traded

Wight very lucky and Lynch depending on behaviour and whether he has redeemed himself.

[bulldogtragic]

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Can mods please edit the poll to reflect multi-voting???? Please....

[westdog54]

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In this order:
Doogs retired.
Lynch Delisted.
O'Shea Rookied.
Eagleton Retired.
Wight offered for trade.

Lynch has been overtaken far too rapidly for my liking. He's gone from making a senior debut to languishing behind (in no particular order) Harbrow, Ward, O'Keefe, Reid, Stack and Hill for a senior spot, and seems to not be improving at Williamstown. Will be lucky to survive the chop.

O'Shea has fallen away a bit this year but given some of the attributes he's shown already, namely his courage and willingness to attack the ball and his ablilities as a defender, I think there's enough there to warrant a spot on the rookie list, particularly with Gavin Hughes' spot freed up. Having said this, one of Shaw or Mulligan might be unlucky.

Eagle has been a wonderful servant for the club but his best is well and truly past him. At his age he simply can't afford to rely on shots on the run from outside 50 as his only weapon. He's had 9 years on the list to improve the defensive side of his game and simply hasn't.

A little disclaimer here: I rate Cam Wight as a player and believe he has the tools to make it at the top level. But like Power and McMahon before him, I get the feeling that a change of scenery might be the best thing for player and club. I'd love for him to stay, but wouldn't be saddened to see him move on.

I'm not keen on the idea of trading Street this year as I wouldn't want Cordy thrown to the lions if Hudson/Minson were injured. Having said that I haven't delisted Skipper in my scenario so there is some back-up there.

[GVGjr]

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Can mods please edit the poll to reflect multi-voting???? Please....

I don't think this can be done. I'll check it out a bit later

[Go_Dogs]

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It really depends how many picks we want, and although the staff probably already have a fair idea, the finish to the season will be important for some players who are playing for their careers.

With McDougall gone, Skipper and West seem the other more likely candidates. Out of the young players both O'Shea and Lynch haven't improved on last year, in some cases gone backwards, so they could also come under pressure.

Street is an interesting one, and I think his future is more dependent on what he wants. He's never going to be a star ruckmen, but he's a good 3rd option.

Eagleton I think will get another year, but next year he'll certainly come under pressure to retain his spot in the side, and ultimately the list.

[Mofra]

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Poor Skipper (who I don't mind) is probably gone, simply due to age.
Street will be in trouble - I'm not sure we will keep many/any "back-up" players on our list, especially single position types.
Sadly, I think West may get the tap on the shoulder if he can't play this season & is no chance to complete a decent pre-season. The injury appears to be chronic rather than acute which will count against him.

Not sure about offering Wight for a trade, he wont attract too much interest and could be used to plug holes all over the ground.
O'Shea is an interesting one - still playing Willy 2nds but was a bottom ager and our lack of fit talls may work in his favour.

[Bornadog]

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OShea rookie
lynch - Gawn

[The Doctor]

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We still have a finals series and we are involved at 3 levels. This could make or break a few.

As it currently stands, my thoughts;

Mcdougall - delisted
Lynch - delisted
O'Shea - delisted
Wight - delisted
West - retired

Undecided on Eagle and Skipper at the moment.

In a year where it is a strong draft and the last one in some time to be uncompromised an extra pick or two at the expense of those who are struggling may be the way to go.

[ledge]

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All this depends on what players Scott Clayton has earmarked in the draft or to pick up in trading and whats available.
Eg, If in our position in draft tells us there will be no ruckman of any calibre then i imagine Street would still be here next year.
Was just thinking, they say finishing 2nd or 3rd make no difference, well its one up in the draft selection, I say we tank the last game.
As far as an abundance of certain players is concerned in the draft and what we have coming up, i will be surprised if West plays again, this year we have ended up in the top 3 without him, retire him off and get him doing something more valuable and thats teaching our centres.
Eagle, I would imagine Ward or Higgins are his dangers.
Lynch sadly will probably go after looking real good last year, he could be good for trade as we all know he has the goods but the brain isnt right. Use the change of scenery excuse.
Skipper i would love to see given another season floating around the forward line in the seniors, he can mark and kick.
But certainly gone after next year if still copping injuries.
With Ayce coming in next year we seem to have an abundance of talls but just not quite up to AFL level.

[bulldogtragic]

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All this depends on what players Scott Clayton has earmarked in the draft or to pick up in trading and whats available.
Eg, If in our position in draft tells us there will be no ruckman of any calibre then i imagine Street would still be here next year.
Was just thinking, they say finishing 2nd or 3rd make no difference, well its one up in the draft selection, I say we tank the last game.
As far as an abundance of certain players is concerned in the draft and what we have coming up, i will be surprised if West plays again, this year we have ended up in the top 3 without him, retire him off and get him doing something more valuable and thats teaching our centres.
Eagle, I would imagine Ward or Higgins are his dangers.
Lynch sadly will probably go after looking real good last year, he could be good for trade as we all know he has the goods but the brain isnt right. Use the change of scenery excuse.
Skipper i would love to see given another season floating around the forward line in the seniors, he can mark and kick.
But certainly gone after next year if still copping injuries.
With Ayce coming in next year we seem to have an abundance of talls but just not quite up to AFL level.

Love the tanking idea, but it will depend on where we finish in the finals, not the top 8 for finalist draft picks.

[ledge]

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Love the tanking idea, but it will depend on where we finish in the finals, not the top 8 for finalist draft picks.

Well there goes that idea!

[Mantis]

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I think we need to keep O'Shea at the club whether on the main list or rookie him. He was drafted from nowhere and to give him just 2 years is very harsh.

If Lynch's attitude has improved I think we keep him for another year, he has the physical attributes which could make him a valuable player.

Street has to go, it's all well and good to say he is back-up, but the truth is that he is a gumby who looks out of place on an AFL ground. He has dominated all year in the VFL, but looked terrible a few weeks back in the AFL.

West is finished, it's sad, but it's the fact.

Not sure on Skipper or Wight, need to keep one of them. Wight probably gets the nod as he can go back.

[Topdog]

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Can mods please edit the poll to reflect multi-voting???? Please....

Tried and failed

[bulldogtragic]

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Thanks for trying, but the explanations in the posts are excellent, From early on WOOF says Street, West, Skipper & Lynch to go with Doogs. Possibly O'Shea to the rookie list.

[ledge]

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Tiller anyone?