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  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5582

    Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
    AFL Coaches Votes

    9 Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
    9 Cody Weightman (WB)
    3 Tom Liberatore (WB)
    3 Adam Treloar (WB)
    3 Tim English (WB)
    2 Tarryn Thomas (NMFC)
    1 Harry Sheezel (NMFC)
    Hold on, somebody thought Tarryn Thomas was the fourth best player on the ground? Ya joking.

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    • angelopetraglia
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6792

      Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

      Originally posted by jazzadogs
      Hold on, somebody thought Tarryn Thomas was the fourth best player on the ground? Ya joking.
      He did a few nice things. But it is a stretch. His stats.

      24 touches
      1 tackle
      467 metres gained
      7 contested possessions
      3 total clearances

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5582

        Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

        Originally posted by angelopetraglia
        He did a few nice things. But it is a stretch. His stats.

        24 touches
        1 tackle
        467 metres gained
        7 contested possessions
        3 total clearances
        He was directly opposed to Weightman for at least two of his goals, and very possibly the two where he was left unopposed as well.

        We absolutely dominated the match. The top 5 players on the ground were Bulldogs players.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21586

          Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

          I thought Thomas was excellent and had a real impact for them.

          Also thought Bont was BOG, just.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66169

            Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

            Originally posted by jazzadogs
            He was directly opposed to Weightman for at least two of his goals, and very possibly the two where he was left unopposed as well.

            We absolutely dominated the match. The top 5 players on the ground were Bulldogs players.
            We did dominate. We had 72 inside 50s, I believe a record for the club.
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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4217

              Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

              Originally posted by jazzadogs
              Hold on, somebody thought Tarryn Thomas was the fourth best player on the ground? Ya joking.
              Crowd was generous with him too.
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7305

                Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Also thought Bont was BOG, just.
                If Weightman wasn't BOG then he could NEVER be BOG.

                6x goals from a small forward? Next best is 3? What's he actually got to do?

                I get that Bont was amazing but mids do have 35 and kick a couple every couple of weeks...small forward kicking 6? Three times per year max. Hell - these days ANY forward kicking 6 only happens half-a-dozen times in a year.
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21586

                  Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                  Originally posted by mjp
                  If Weightman wasn't BOG then he could NEVER be BOG.

                  6x goals from a small forward? Next best is 3? What's he actually got to do?

                  I get that Bont was amazing but mids do have 35 and kick a couple every couple of weeks...small forward kicking 6? Three times per year max. Hell - these days ANY forward kicking 6 only happens half-a-dozen times in a year.
                  Go back to picking on EW please.

                  Cody's game was outstanding and I appreciate he's playing a ridiculously difficult role. Just thought that Bont with three and his presence around the ball had the bigger impact.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5510

                    Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    If Weightman wasn't BOG then he could NEVER be BOG.

                    6x goals from a small forward? Next best is 3? What's he actually got to do?

                    I get that Bont was amazing but mids do have 35 and kick a couple every couple of weeks...small forward kicking 6? Three times per year max. Hell - these days ANY forward kicking 6 only happens half-a-dozen times in a year.
                    I don't often disagree with you but being BOG is also about how every one else performs.

                    What player ever gets 32 with 18 contested, 8 clearances, 11 tackles and 3 goals and 14 score involvements and isn't BOG.

                    Cody was fantastic but Bont was sublime. Both had games that justified BOG status.
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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7305

                      Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                      I don't often disagree with you but being BOG is also about how every one else performs.

                      What player ever gets 32 with 18 contested, 8 clearances, 11 tackles and 3 goals and 14 score involvements and isn't BOG.

                      Cody was fantastic but Bont was sublime. Both had games that justified BOG status.
                      Bont had a great game. But if you look at his numbers, last week alone Josh Kelly did the same thing for the Giants, Errol Gulden went close for the Swans, you could argue Taranto did MORE playing for the Giants and Cripps did it for the Blues.

                      No other small forward kicked 6 or even went close.

                      You have to take the role into account. Bont was sublime but there are performances like that each and every week. Cody's was a once / twice per year type game...BOG and actually not that close.
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5582

                        Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Bont had a great game. But if you look at his numbers, last week alone Josh Kelly did the same thing for the Giants, Errol Gulden went close for the Swans, you could argue Taranto did MORE playing for the Giants and Cripps did it for the Blues.

                        No other small forward kicked 6 or even went close.

                        You have to take the role into account. Bont was sublime but there are performances like that each and every week. Cody's was a once / twice per year type game...BOG and actually not that close.
                        Players with 30+ disposals, 10+ tackles and 3+ goals in a game
                        Jimmy Bartel
                        Gary Ablett jnr (x3)
                        Scott Pendlebury
                        Luke Parker
                        Patrick Dangerfield (x2)
                        Dayne Zorko (x2)
                        MARCUS BONTEMPELLI

                        He's literally only the 7th player in recorded history to have that stat line.

                        Why should their role determine who was best? Bont had the largest impact on the result in my opinion, and his fantastic game is being reduced because he's a mid, while Cody gets elevated because he's a tall-small forward. That doesn't make sense to me.

                        (Fun to argue about something so meaningless btw)

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7305

                          Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                          Originally posted by jazzadogs
                          Players with 30+ disposals, 10+ tackles and 3+ goals in a game
                          Jimmy Bartel
                          Gary Ablett jnr (x3)
                          Scott Pendlebury
                          Luke Parker
                          Patrick Dangerfield (x2)
                          Dayne Zorko (x2)
                          MARCUS BONTEMPELLI

                          He's literally only the 7th player in recorded history to have that stat line.

                          Why should their role determine who was best? Bont had the largest impact on the result in my opinion, and his fantastic game is being reduced because he's a mid, while Cody gets elevated because he's a tall-small forward. That doesn't make sense to me.

                          (Fun to argue about something so meaningless btw)
                          Interesting that they're all modern day players.

                          If it was 1980 and it never happened, I'd be with you...
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15322

                            Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            Interesting that they're all modern day players.

                            If it was 1980 and it never happened, I'd be with you...
                            Probably because tackle numbers weren't tracked until 1994 and only became an official stat in 2001.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66169

                              Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              Probably because tackle numbers weren't tracked until 1994 and only became an official stat in 2001.
                              Tackling has also gone through the roof compared to the old days. Players are faster now and apply much more pressure than in the past.
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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14582

                                Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Tackling has also gone through the roof compared to the old days. Players are faster now and apply much more pressure than in the past.
                                Players are fitter so run more and get to more contests.
                                The curse is dead.

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