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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44676

    3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

    Please list 3 new things you learned from our round 18 clash with the Swans
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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

    Going early. Let’s see what happens.

    1. Umpires having money on results is now endemic
    2. McNeil should never, ever, ever, ever, ever play again
    3. Rumour was Bevo would quit if we missed finals. He might be shopping for moving boxes.
    4. If VDM is the answer, the question is ****ed
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Bullies
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2014
      • 1807

      #3
      Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

      1, We have no leadership beside Bont. No one demnded the ball in the last 1/4.
      2. Lobbe would have been handy tonight. Not fair on Sam Darcy he has missed so much football and only played 2 games in the 2nds. 3 of his goals last week came after the 30 minute mark of the last 1/4. He was not ready.
      3. How did we not have players behind the ball in the last few minutes when we had the lead.
      4. Duryea is cooked and MacNeill is just no good.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44676

        #4
        Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

        1 - Rushing Sam Darcy isn't the right option and he's not ready to ruck. That's not a knock on his talent.
        2 - JOD was looking okay before his injury, the footy gods weren't smiling on him
        3 - We needed to put some work into Gulden early in the game.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6522

          #5
          Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

          1. A team with Bailey Dale, Ed Richards, Bailey Williams and Vandermeer playing behind the ball shouldn't struggle as much as we do to rebound the footy from our D50. Complete lack of dare and urgency during that second quarter especially
          2. Our forward 50 pressure was non-existent for much of the night. I thought it might improve with Garcia coming on, but he, McNeil and Weightman really didn't bring what the Swans small forwards did
          3. We've found a good one in Poulter. Thought he immediately looks like one of our most composed ball users.

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          • westbulldog
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2009
            • 1823

            #6
            Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

            1. The rest of the season should be used to weed out the non-performers, coaches included, and bring in players who have not been given a chance. if we make the 8 it is just making up the numbers.
            2. It is quite possible that some of tonight's umpires should not get a gig next week.
            3. In hindsight, Darcy was rushed in too soon.

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11246

              #7
              Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

              1. Poulter has something to work with. Still very young at 20 but seems to have some composure, handles the pill OK and uses it well enough.

              2. Losing 5/7 games, two against depleted opposition in Geelong and Sydney, is dangerous territory at this point in the season. Top 4 is gone, top 8 increasingly unlikely, and with it comes pressure onto our coaching / administration.

              3. Darcy can't take a trick.
              W00F!

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              • Boots
                Rookie List
                • Nov 2020
                • 435

                #8
                Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                1. Darcy wasn’t ready and the fact he was played says something about the faith the MC have in the list
                2. West has really started to come on. Still not perfect by any stretch but geez he tries and the selfish bits of his game are slowly disappearing.
                3. vandermeer is a liability at worst and not terribly useful at best. Waste of a lost spot.

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6849

                  #9
                  Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                  Originally posted by Bullies
                  1, We have no leadership beside Bont. No one demnded the ball in the last 1/4.
                  2. Lobbe would have been handy tonight. Not fair on Sam Darcy he has missed so much football and only played 2 games in the 2nds. 3 of his goals last week came after the 30 minute mark of the last 1/4. He was not ready.
                  3. How did we not have players behind the ball in the last few minutes when we had the lead.
                  4. Duryea is cooked and MacNeill is just no good.
                  100% this. Just dumb. We had time to adjust. When they went up they put Mills behind the ball immediately.

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                  • MrMahatma
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3966

                    #10
                    Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                    1. I overrate our team
                    2. I love Naughton
                    3. I did, for at least a couple of min, wonder if a change of coach/game plan would give us better results. Just for a couple of mins. I feel dirty

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                    • Critter
                      Rookie List
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 443

                      #11
                      Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                      1. The indecision when under pressure demonstrated by Baileys Williams and Dale in recent weeks is worrying. Both have had costly moments in the backline where they have frozen in dangerous spots. I suspect our transition game is poorly defined and fuzzily coached, leaving them without clear get-out paths.
                      2. Lachlan McNeil's first reaction when under pressure is to hand off the the ball to the nearest teammate, regardless of the pressure that person might be under. He is a turnover king who is not AFL standard.
                      3. Riley West has real potential. He makes the odd error, drifts in and out of the game at times, but has real smarts and the skills to demonstrate them. He simply needs more game-time experience. So, given we've been prepared to put time into so many underperformers in recent years, let's hope the MC extends the same courtesy to West. I think he will end up a 200+ game player.

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                      • Flamethrower
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1389

                        #12
                        Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                        1. I watched the VFL game last week - Sam Darcy did very little until the last 5 minutes when he kicked the last 3 goals. He also looks as fragile as a baby deer. Was surprised to see him selected. Once he bulks up though, he could be anything.

                        2. We have too many list cloggers in both the AFL and VFL teams - time to slash and burn and send a heap of players back to the WRFL. They are not good enough to be paid to play Aussie Rules football.

                        3. The coaches box needs a refresh. Keep Bevo if we can't afford to pay him out but get someone else in there who he will listen too with a contrary opinion when he loses the plot or gets too radical.
                        Footscray member since 1980.

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7704

                          #13
                          Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                          Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                          100% this. Just dumb. We had time to adjust. When they went up they put Mills behind the ball immediately.
                          Exactly how we lost to Geelong a couple years back.....we are so bloody dumb.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66774

                            #14
                            Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                            1. Close games against Port (14points), GC (7 points), Pies (12 points) and Swans (2 Points) is killing our season. Just shows we are short of a few good players in the HBF, Wing and HFF.

                            2. Bulldog supporters were calling for Lobbs head, yet without him it exposed our inexperienced forward line

                            3. We showed in the first quarter we can move the ball quickly and kick 5 goals, then we changed for the next 3 quarters and lost. Need to put together 4 quarters like the first
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                            • JanLorMill
                              WOOF Member
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1688

                              #15
                              Re: 3 things learned from Rd18 vs Sydney Swans 2023

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              2. Bulldog supporters were calling for Lobbs head, yet without him it exposed our inexperienced forward line
                              Not really the forward lines fault last night and nothing another tall would have fixed. Lobb wasn't going to stop them kicking willy nilly or over possessing it.

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