Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7363

    Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

    The game vs the Bombers was appalling.

    Essendon chipping the ball over and over again across half back? Man, it was like death by 1000-cuts.

    I am old enough to remember a time when even after taking a mark, if you didn't get the ball moving the umpire would pay a free kick against you for "deliberately wasting time"...now, entire teams do it - with the help of the stand rule (what a joke) to chip, chip, chip themselves (and any viewers) to death.

    WE played very well - moved it fast, took it on, Jamarra, Naughts and Cody jumped at it and - well - played footy in the spirit of the game. If I wanted to watch Ridley chip it to McGrath under zero pressure though, I would fly to Melbourne, uber it the Essendon facility and attend a training session.

    I think there are a certainly a few teams in the league who play footy the 'right' way - and despite my dislike for them the 2023 Essendon side is one of them. But holy heck last night was a hard watch - chip, chip, chip. At least pre- "back to the 9m" and "stand" you could get in there faces, try to force a turnover, create some pressure and excitement...now, well...now, you just have to suck it!
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
  • D Mitchell
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2023
    • 652

    #2
    Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

    Originally posted by mjp
    The game vs the Bombers was appalling.

    Essendon chipping the ball over and over again across half back? Man, it was like death by 1000-cuts.

    I am old enough to remember a time when even after taking a mark, if you didn't get the ball moving the umpire would pay a free kick against you for "deliberately wasting time"...now, entire teams do it - with the help of the stand rule (what a joke) to chip, chip, chip themselves (and any viewers) to death.

    WE played very well - moved it fast, took it on, Jamarra, Naughts and Cody jumped at it and - well - played footy in the spirit of the game. If I wanted to watch Ridley chip it to McGrath under zero pressure though, I would fly to Melbourne, uber it the Essendon facility and attend a training session.

    I think there are a certainly a few teams in the league who play footy the 'right' way - and despite my dislike for them the 2023 Essendon side is one of them. But holy heck last night was a hard watch - chip, chip, chip. At least pre- "back to the 9m" and "stand" you could get in there faces, try to force a turnover, create some pressure and excitement...now, well...now, you just have to suck it!
    Bolded bit. Surely you are anaesthetised, having watched our defence all season. Disclaimer: I didn't go last night.

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7363

      #3
      Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

      Originally posted by D Mitchell
      Bolded bit. Surely you are anaesthetised, having watched our defence all season. Disclaimer: I didn't go last night.
      Yeah - 100% I'm used to it...just really struck me last night. I think they had the highest number of marks inside defensive half (or something) and I feel like every switch back across to the other side was making me want to scream...

      Disclaimer: I rarely get to watch Friday night games 'live' (as in, I'm still in Perth but when they go to air, 'cos, well, work) but I stuffed around with the roster and called in favours (aka told some staff they were working and therefore had to pay real money) to get the night off to watch and enjoy it - big game and all. It did NOT live up to the billing. We won though so happy faces.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Curly5
        Rookie List
        • Jul 2008
        • 392

        #4
        Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

        You only have to look at videos of games of a decade or more ago to realise how much the game has changed for the worse.
        My favourite Bulldogs period (other than 15-16) was under Eade in the late 2000s.

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        • kruder
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2011
          • 3856

          #5
          Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

          Felt like I was watching Freo play MJP, absolutely awful to watch and our mids on paper spooked them before the game began.

          The highlight for me was another step for our young forward line, in Naughty,Marra and Cody and a change of mindset from Bailey Smith. Even if you play outside for periods of the game doesn't mean you can't bring your inner mid insticts when it comes to defence.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66700

            #6
            Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

            I said the same thing to the bloke sitting next to me about over possessing the ball. He thought our defensive set up stopped the backline from attacking and they didn't want to kick the ball to a contest. Essendon went round in circles.

            The best effort was when they ran the ball fast through the corridor, but that only happened one or two times.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14304

              #7
              Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

              I’m worried the media are trying to get Bailey Smith for a dangerous tackle when all he did was grab his jumper by one hand.
              It’s quite strange the media ask is it a dangerous tackle, bring it up as a dangerous tackle then go through all the rules and not one rule is broken to say it is.
              That’s the problem with AFL footy the media start the rubbish talk then the AFL follows the stupidity of it.
              A lot of rules are changed because some media clown wants a click or two.
              The no three men at the ruck was one the media started it actually devalued the game.
              Bring back the biff

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              • D Mitchell
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2023
                • 652

                #8
                Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                Originally posted by ledge
                I’m worried the media are trying to get Bailey Smith for a dangerous tackle when all he did was grab his jumper by one hand.
                It’s quite strange the media ask is it a dangerous tackle, bring it up as a dangerous tackle then go through all the rules and not one rule is broken to say it is.
                That’s the problem with AFL footy the media start the rubbish talk then the AFL follows the stupidity of it.
                A lot of rules are changed because some media clown wants a click or two.
                The no three men at the ruck was one the media started it actually devalued the game.
                Bolded bit. Headquarters says it came about following widespread consultation with a range of relevant stakeholders to protect the role of ruckmen. That's code for have to stop Bont and Bulldogs winning another Premiership.

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                • macca
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2366

                  #9
                  Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                  Originally posted by D Mitchell
                  Bolded bit. Headquarters says it came about following widespread consultation with a range of relevant stakeholders to protect the role of ruckmen. That's code for have to stop Bont and Bulldogs winning another Premiership.
                  Once again , AFL changing the rules becuase we get good at something

                  Honestly the game is becoming very unintersting to watch

                  I really struggle to watch other games being played now due to :
                  1. Stupid rules opens up for stupid intepretations
                  2. When ball is in stoppage , players now just stand and try to pickup ball, its going to tear hamstrings and cause back problems
                  3. Commentary

                  Brian taylor was very complimentary of Smith tackling last night
                  Last edited by macca; 22-07-2023, 11:08 PM.

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14946

                    #10
                    Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                    It's part of why Collingwood are (as it pains me to say) so watchable - they take risks, and often take them in the riskiest part of the ground (the corridor).

                    I really think in 2015 & 2016 we made football more watchable with handball club to get the ball to boot and move it quickly, or run it from D50 with speed.
                    2016 meant teams anywhere on the ladder think they're chance and killed the 'premiership window' chatter a bit.

                    There are always going to be teams that just try and hold possession and treat the game like slow chess.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44634

                      #11
                      Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                      I didn't mid yesterdays game but I don't enjoy the way Essendon play and Fremantle for that matter. Those defensive switches can make for boring games.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14304

                        #12
                        Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        I didn't mid yesterdays game but I don't enjoy the way Essendon play and Fremantle for that matter. Those defensive switches can make for boring games.
                        The bombouts do it because they poo their pants if a side kicks a few in row. they try the attacking game first though.
                        Geelongs smashing completely destroyed any confidence they had of running forward.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21825

                          #13
                          Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                          I don't mind teams bringing a range of different styles to play to strengths and hide weaknesses. It creates a balance between the different levels of ability. If everyone played like Collingwood there'd be a lot more blow outs.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13235

                            #14
                            Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                            Originally posted by D Mitchell
                            Bolded bit. Surely you are anaesthetised, having watched our defence all season. Disclaimer: I didn't go last night.
                            St Kilda have been doing it since Ross Lyon v1.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15445

                              #15
                              Re: Watching last night...Football has LOST a lot!

                              Essendon's backline is just so vanilla... Ridley (who is a nice mark, but no hurt factor going forward), Zerk-Thatcher, Laverde, Kelly, Heppell and McGrath.. spare me.

                              The only time they looked like taking the game, which is sort of how you trouble us is when Hind ventured down there late in the game.

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