Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15179

    #46
    Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

    Originally posted by Ozza
    I have been watching the centre bounces pretty closely over the last few weeks - and the recurring them is that when Minson is in the middle - we get it out. I much prefer him to be in the centre square if we aren't going well during a game - and his thumps forward or sidewards really clear it out well and get us running.
    I thought he was very good against Geelong in that regard.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • BulldogBelle
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 5284

      #47
      Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

      Minson is 198 cm's

      Add his agression, leap and strength and he is easily 'tall' enough to be an AFL level ruckman

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #48
        Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

        Good to see we've finally got some ruckmen. In a few years time, Cordy to ruck in the forward line and stay there. Big Will/Roughead to ruck and work defensively to sure up our defense. Sounds good to me

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        • soupman
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2007
          • 5087

          #49
          Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

          I think Will is our best ruckman, and that generally when we get a run on Will is in the middle for most of it. He's not necessarily the best ruckman at stopping opposition clearances, but he is very good at creating our own centre clearances. If you compare him to Hudson, I see Hudson more as the minimiser, who tries to minimise the efficiency and effectiveness of the opposition clearances not through his ruckwork, but his second efforts. Minson on the other hand lacks that defenseive ability in the centre, but often creates something either with his big bashes forward or by grabbing it out of the ruck. I'm fine if he gets caught occasionally, as I feel that it works more often than not, and often it works fairly well, as long as he picks his moments carefully.
          I should leave it alone but you're not right

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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #50
            Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
            I must say I haven't paid that much notice, but on Friday Will was in the centre when he grabbed it from the bounce & was pinged. Richmond goaled from that & took away the next 4 clearences whilst Will was in there.

            Be interesting to see the stats on how many centre clearences we have won & who was the ruckman on those occassions.
            The first two (including the HTB free) were Will, the next 3 were Huddo.

            The last one (right before 1/2 time) was Will again and we won the last clearance.

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            • dog town
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 1895

              #51
              Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

              We are number 1 in the league for first possessions so the two ruckmen must be doing something right along with the guys around the stoppages.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14850

                #52
                Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                Originally posted by dog town
                We are number 1 in the league for first possessions so the two ruckmen must be doing something right along with the guys around the stoppages.
                I would think Minson is a big reason for this, he seems to have improved his tapwork in the off season. I Should think Boyd's improvement is another factor, with Picken letting him concentrate more on getting the ball.
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65885

                  #53
                  Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  I would think Minson is a big reason for this, he seems to have improved his tapwork in the off season. I Should think Boyd's improvement is another factor, with Picken letting him concentrate more on getting the ball.
                  Also Minson is now starting to mature as a player. We have always said the big guys take longer to develop. Minson's ruck work in the past 4 weeks has been fantastic.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #54
                    Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                    Tap outs, 23 possies, 3 goals straight. Stand out game for him. Wilbur is really coming into his element this year.
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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14850

                      #55
                      Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                      Best game I've ever seen him play. Lade & Brogan aren't exactly hacks, either.
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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6923

                        #56
                        Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Best game I've ever seen him play.
                        By a fair margin too.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #57
                          Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Tap outs, 23 possies, 3 goals straight. Stand out game for him. Wilbur is really coming into his element this year.
                          We need him to this, in a prelim final.

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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11091

                            #58
                            Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                            Minson has had a very good season so far. His ruck work has been very good and he's having a presence around the ground and at stoppages. The influence of Hudson is clearly rubbing off on Minson and it's improved his game a lot.
                            W00F!

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Will Minson - Too short to ever be a really effective ruckman?

                              I think this thread is as good a place as any to acknowledge the work of our ruck coach Johnny Barnes.

                              He has to take a lot of credit for Will's improved ruckwork, as well as the entire centrebounce set up for different styles of ruckmen in Will and Huddo. This also holds Ayce and Roughy in good stead, as they will be learning from one of the best in the business.

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