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  • Bornadog
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    • Jan 2007
    • 66851

    #46
    Re: Bulldogs best kicks

    Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
    Players that are accurate goal kickers are the ultimate best kicks so Jack Collins, Ted Whitten, Templeton kicked a ton, Beasley, Royal, Simon Garlic, Hall, Johnson and Dickson.
    Bont is an elite kick by any measure except set shot, nerves get in his way.
    Fun fact:

    Did you know Cody Weightman sits 14th best most accurate goal kicker in AFL for all records starting in 1965 to present, 70.21% accuracy. Tory Dickson is second at 74.79% and Shaneloveless 6th at 72%.

    Source: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/accuracy.html
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    • Bulldog4life
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      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      #47
      Re: Bulldogs best kicks

      Going back to the 60's EJ was a magnificent kick of the footy. His torps went incredible distances. Another who was a brilliant drop kick was Ian Bryant. Has to be one of best of all time alongside Ted.

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10157

        #48
        Re: Bulldogs best kicks



        Skip to 1:53. If there’s ever been a better kick of a ball I haven’t seen it.
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        • D Mitchell
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          • Jan 2023
          • 653

          #49
          Re: Bulldogs best kicks

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          Going back to the 60's EJ was a magnificent kick of the footy. His torps went incredible distances. Another who was a brilliant drop kick was Ian Bryant. Has to be one of best of all time alongside Ted.
          Dave Darcy's drop kicks were a pleasure to behold, no follow through but low and long. Templeton was accurate at goal, close to Dickson 72 % : 74 %

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          • Bornadog
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            • Jan 2007
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            #50
            Re: Bulldogs best kicks

            Originally posted by D Mitchell
            Dave Darcy's drop kicks were a pleasure to behold, no follow through but low and long. Templeton was accurate at goal, close to Dickson 72 % : 74 %
            Incorrect on % accuracy. Kelvin kicked 593 goals and 335 points
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            • D Mitchell
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              • Jan 2023
              • 653

              #51
              Re: Bulldogs best kicks

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Incorrect on % accuracy. Kelvin kicked 593 goals and 335 points
              You're right, I was sure that I saw 72 % somewhere. Those figures are similar to Beasley's 575 :321 so both around 64 %

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              • Bornadog
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                • Jan 2007
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                #52
                Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                Originally posted by D Mitchell
                You're right, I was sure that I saw 72 % somewhere. Those figures are similar to Beasley's 575 :321 so both around 64 %
                I will agree Templeton was a magnificent kick of the footy and I nominated him back a few pages ago. Cut down in his prime with that knee.

                I will never forget watching him kick that 15 goals (and 9 behinds) that day.
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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27658

                  #53
                  Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                  Originally posted by Happy Days


                  Skip to 1:53. If there’s ever been a better kick of a ball I haven’t seen it.
                  Ted Whitten jr did that 2 or 3 times each week. Some of the bullets he hit Kelvin Templeton with were amazing. He probably provided KT with 30% of his goals by hitting him on the chest time after time.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27658

                    #54
                    Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                    Speaking of individually great kicks. 8.55 in when Hawkins hits Edmond on the chest in the 1985 semi final is the best kick I've ever seen.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Bornadog
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                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66851

                      #55
                      Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Speaking of individually great kicks. 8.55 in when Hawkins hits Edmond on the chest in the 1985 semi final is the best kick I've ever seen.
                      The first final I ever saw us win. That kick from Doug was a beauty, but the video doesn't do it justice. It was a low grass cutter like a bullet
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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13246

                        #56
                        Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        The first final I ever saw us win. That kick from Doug was a beauty, but the video doesn't do it justice. It was a low grass cutter like a bullet
                        On the right
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5586

                          #57
                          Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Fun fact:

                          Did you know Cody Weightman sits 14th best most accurate goal kicker in AFL for all records starting in 1965 to present, 70.21% accuracy. Tory Dickson is second at 74.79% and Shaneloveless 6th at 72%.

                          Source: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/accuracy.html
                          Unfortunately this table is another example of Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.

                          It only counts shots that actually score when we all know a complete miss should bring the percentage down.

                          I also suspect that touched behinds are counted as a point when from an accuracy perspective it may have been a straight kick.

                          There is also the issue of degree of difficulty. Kicking from 20 metres or 50 makes a big difference.
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                          • Bornadog
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #58
                            Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                            Unfortunately this table is another example of Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics.

                            It only counts shots that actually score when we all know a complete miss should bring the percentage down.

                            I also suspect that touched behinds are counted as a point when from an accuracy perspective it may have been a straight kick.
                            Well it is scoring accuracy.
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                            • Bulldog Joe
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5586

                              #59
                              Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Well it is scoring accuracy.
                              But it just isn't.

                              Until it counts complete misses it lacks accuracy.

                              As an example Fritsch would be 50% on that metric last night (2.2) but when you consider the complete shank when Melbourne really needed him the accuracy drops to 40%.
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                              • GVGjr
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                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44725

                                #60
                                Re: Bulldogs best kicks

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Well it is scoring accuracy.
                                It's a first cut on some data but Joe is right once you look a bit deeper it's not that accurate.
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