AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

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  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6853

    AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

    The AFL and the AFLPA are nearing an agreement on a new CBA, which the players in both the AFL and AFLW set to cash in big on the landmark deal.

    Jon Ralph and Scott Gullan September 11, 2023 - 8:14PM

    The AFL?s male players are set for a $200,000 pay rise within five seasons under a new pay deal that is close to being finalised.

    After months of high-level talks, the AFL?s male and female players are set to vote on the landmark deal which is worth $2.2 billion over five years.

    The league is currently paying the male players an average wage of $406,000 but with pay rises set to hit over 30 per cent by 2027 they would take home nearly $600,000.

    After three days of talks at AFL House last week the AFLPA held a board meeting on Monday where they decided to send the deal to their players for a vote.

    The minimum wage for AFLW players is set to rise to $70,000, up from nearly $40,000.

    Clubs believe the salary cap could go up as much as 12 per cent for the 2023 season under a backdated deal then another significant amount for the 2024 season.

    By the time those pay rises compounded the new deals would be remarkable, and allow untold wealth into the game.

    Last year there were 12 players who earned $1 million, with 51 players paid $800,000 or more.

    Under the new pay rise by the end of 2027 there would be at least 50 players earning at least $1 million a season.

    Players would also be handed double the amount for their past players and welfare programs.

    The AFL has been seeking to put in place a concussion fund that could hit $10 million a season, but in early discussions had asked the players to fund that program for current and past players.

    The AFL has already committed to a longer AFLW season ? up from 10 games ? in the next AFLW season from August next year.

    The league has secured permission from the AFLW players to set the length of its women?s fixture given certain growth measurements.

    Industry sources said the league was confident of a breakthrough on Monday night but still aware there were details that had to be brokered to finalise a deal.

    The league has felt it was close before talks broke down last month so it is only cautiously optimistic.

    But the fundamentals of the deal are in place which would allow players to secure massive pay rises.

    The new pay deal will allow the league to hand clubs a significant rise in their football department cap which will help pave the way for much-needed increase in the wages of coaches who have been the hardest hit in recent times.
  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6853

    #2
    Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

    Does anyone have any clarity on what % of contracts have clauses to index with the CBA? I have no idea if they do or if they don't. But when the cap is going to grow by 30% out to 2027, that is going to have a material impact on the salary cap and contracts.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #3
      Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

      From memory, most of our have the CBA built into them.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15335

        #4
        Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

        Originally posted by angelopetraglia
        Does anyone have any clarity on what % of contracts have clauses to index with the CBA? I have no idea if they do or if they don't. But when the cap is going to grow by 30% out to 2027, that is going to have a material impact on the salary cap and contracts.
        It probably comes down to the player also.

        Some clubs like Essendon and West Coast (historically) do not put that clause in player contracts.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15335

          #5
          Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

          Hopefully that means we can now sign Naughton, Marra and Smith.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66851

            #6
            Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

            Originally posted by azabob
            Hopefully that means we can now sign Naughton, Marra and Smith.
            and English
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Rocket Science
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 4854

              #7
              Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

              And Duryea
              BORDERLINE FLYING

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #8
                Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                Ralphy reckons close to 30% bump in pay. Specifically, if English wanted to leave he could command $1.3M a season!

                I don’t mind Tim for my frustrations from time to time. But $1.3M for any ruckman is insane.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44721

                  #9
                  Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Ralphy reckons close to 30% bump in pay. Specifically, if English wanted to leave he could command $1.3M a season!

                  I don’t mind Tim for my frustrations from time to time. But $1.3M for any ruckman is insane.
                  That's a massive increase and clubs would have a lot of flexibility now to target the right players and get them signed to lucrative deals.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11205

                    #10
                    Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Ralphy reckons close to 30% bump in pay. Specifically, if English wanted to leave he could command $1.3M a season!

                    I don’t mind Tim for my frustrations from time to time. But $1.3M for any ruckman is insane.
                    That does seem like crazy money, however a few on here feel strongly that we shouldn't pay a ruckman even $1 million. With just the 30% pay increase Tim will likely be on around $1 million anyway. We will all need to re-assess contract values as all of a sudden it's going to seem like everybody will be getting paid too much.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66851

                      #11
                      Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      That does seem like crazy money, however a few on here feel strongly that we shouldn't pay a ruckman even $1 million. With just the 30% pay increase Tim will likely be on around $1 million anyway. We will all need to re-assess contract values as all of a sudden it's going to seem like everybody will be getting paid too much.
                      Estimated in a few years 50 players will be on $1 million
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • mjp
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7382

                        #12
                        Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Estimated in a few years 50 players will be on $1 million
                        Like every pay increase mate, it really will be a case of the 'rich getting richer'.

                        You watch - the average pay will go up driven by the $ given to the superstars...but those players on the border of a list - well, don't come out of contract at the 'wrong' time, 'cos if you do, your $400K will quickly be a new draftee on $200k and the other $200K will go to the top 5 on the list...

                        Is that how it should be? Who knows really, but the gap between the haves and the have nots in footy (and in society in general) continues to grow.

                        I like the fact they are much more heavily investing in the funding for retired/delisted players and player welfare.

                        What I really want to hear is significant increase in the soft cap so some of the people doing work as trainers, massage therapists etc actually start getting looked after...it's been pretty bleak in recent times at a few clubs around the place.
                        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44721

                          #13
                          Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          Like every pay increase mate, it really will be a case of the 'rich getting richer'.

                          You watch - the average pay will go up driven by the $ given to the superstars...but those players on the border of a list - well, don't come out of contract at the 'wrong' time, 'cos if you do, your $400K will quickly be a new draftee on $200k and the other $200K will go to the top 5 on the list...
                          .
                          I think you're right when ideally it should be spread across the whole playing group.
                          I thought COLA was a decent idea as it should have focused more on the players on the lower contracts to help them cover the cost of renting places in Sydney. Unfortunately the Swans used it to attract top end players and stuffed it right up.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15335

                            #14
                            Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                            What do we make of the mid season trade period? Of course no context given on how it will operate.

                            Gut feel I don’t really like it.
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • Hotdog60
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5920

                              #15
                              Re: AFL and AFLPA close to agreement on new CBA

                              To avoid all this players being payed too much the AFL should have made player payment wages based a century ago so everyone gets the same pay regardless of your stature in the game.
                              Pay increments go up each year and get capped may be after 5 or 6 years and players get a bonus for finals but not just those that played but the whole team.
                              If this was the case I wonder how many star players would get poached of course you would have to watch the endorsement type paper bag jobs and relatives getting executive wages for being the tea lady.
                              Don't piss off old people
                              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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