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  • Bullies
    WOOF Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 1808

    #106
    Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Agree, there was a reason he didn’t play much footy for Melbourne last year.
    Pay him out and whoever gave him the deal goes as well. He was awful in the VFL last year so not how anyone can give him a 3 year contract at the top level on $400k per year by all accounts. Mind blowing.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 19389

      #107
      Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

      Originally posted by Bullies
      Pay him out and whoever gave him the deal goes as well. He was awful in the VFL last year so not how anyone can give him a 3 year contract at the top level on $400k per year by all accounts. Mind blowing.
      The three years probably got him across. Agree it's abysmal list management. He's been cooked for a while.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67706

        #108
        Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        The three years probably got him across. Agree it's abysmal list management. He's been cooked for a while.
        Please no more hasbeens from other clubs
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Rocket Science
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2007
          • 4871

          #109
          Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Please no more hasbeens from other clubs
          Well, we're consistently unable to lure quality of any semblance so we've gotta recruit someone I suppose.

          It's quite the collection of doorstops we're amassing.
          BORDERLINE FLYING

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10120

            #110
            Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Please no more hasbeens from other clubs
            What about never wases? Because I think Harmes slots more appropriately there.

            This is yet another example of me being honey dicked by club propaganda pre season articles and warming to something that I should have listened to the alarm bells on all along .
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 19389

              #111
              Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Please no more hasbeens from other clubs
              I said this on another chat we are desperately trying to find a depth mixture that works for us. All clubs have players in roles that aren't stars.
              I don't mind the intent you can only get what's available and i think many times we aren't the popular choice. We were after Schultz he chose the pies.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15484

                #112
                Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                I said this on another chat we are desperately trying to find a depth mixture that works for us. All clubs have players in roles that aren't stars.
                I don't mind the intent you can only get what's available and i think many times we aren't the popular choice. We were after Schultz he chose the pies.
                Interestingly Schultz is struggling at the pies.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 15118

                  #113
                  Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  What was the point of this?
                  If we're not using him defensively, I don't know.

                  Last night was the exact game & scenario he'd be used for and we.... didn't use him for it. If we wanted a mediocre wingman we already signed two for free last year.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • jDogs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2023
                    • 137

                    #114
                    Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    If we're not using him defensively, I don't know.
                    I thought his signing was actually half decent because I thought they were addressing a clear need for us. I can't believe what these people are thinking or doing!

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18103

                      #115
                      Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      If we're not using him defensively, I don't know.

                      Last night was the exact game & scenario he'd be used for and we.... didn't use him for it. If we wanted a mediocre wingman we already signed two for free last year.
                      Yeah, why you wouldn?t clamp him onto one of Serong or Brayshaw I have no idea.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Bullies
                        WOOF Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 1808

                        #116
                        Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Yeah, why you wouldn?t clamp him onto one of Serong or Brayshaw I have no idea.
                        Makes no sense. We get a run with player and we don't tag. If we were ever going to tag last night at 1/4 time was it.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #117
                          Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          If we're not using him defensively, I don't know.

                          Last night was the exact game & scenario he'd be used for and we.... didn't use him for it. If we wanted a mediocre wingman we already signed two for free last year.
                          It’s utterly confusing. If i recall correctly we were talking up his harder edge and defensive pressure and just said to him imitate McNeil’s last few years. Did the coaching box forget about this hard defensive edge?
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6988

                            #118
                            Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                            Yeah he is another I don't get what we are doing with.

                            I think we really set up our role guys to fail giving them such different roles when they go back to VFL.

                            Harmes has plenty of CBAs when in the VFL. If we aren't going to do that in AFL with lockdowns or whatever, play him in a wing/forward role primarily at VFL level.

                            Daniel doesn't look at option at HBF in AFL level yet it's where we have played him in VFL. I'd like him spend time forward in the VFL.

                            Garcia heaps of CBAs at VFL level and played forward in AFL. I'd like him to spend time fwd and wing as well as CBAs when he is inevitably black in the VFL.

                            Sanders atm probably a 25-30% CBA guy at AFL if he gets back in anytime soon. Give him some time elsewhere during in the VFL.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #119
                              Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              Yeah he is another I don't get what we are doing with.

                              I think we really set up our role guys to fail giving them such different roles when they go back to VFL.

                              Harmes has plenty of CBAs when in the VFL. If we aren't going to do that in AFL with lockdowns or whatever, play him in a wing/forward role primarily at VFL level.

                              Daniel doesn't look at option at HBF in AFL level yet it's where we have played him in VFL. I'd like him spend time forward in the VFL.

                              Garcia heaps of CBAs at VFL level and played forward in AFL. I'd like him to spend time fwd and wing as well as CBAs when he is inevitably black in the VFL.

                              Sanders atm probably a 25-30% CBA guy at AFL if he gets back in anytime soon. Give him some time elsewhere during in the VFL.
                              When you lay it out like that, what the **** are we doing?
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Go_Dogs
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 10258

                                #120
                                Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                                Yeah he is another I don't get what we are doing with.

                                I think we really set up our role guys to fail giving them such different roles when they go back to VFL.

                                Harmes has plenty of CBAs when in the VFL. If we aren't going to do that in AFL with lockdowns or whatever, play him in a wing/forward role primarily at VFL level.

                                Daniel doesn't look at option at HBF in AFL level yet it's where we have played him in VFL. I'd like him spend time forward in the VFL.

                                Garcia heaps of CBAs at VFL level and played forward in AFL. I'd like him to spend time fwd and wing as well as CBAs when he is inevitably black in the VFL.

                                Sanders atm probably a 25-30% CBA guy at AFL if he gets back in anytime soon. Give him some time elsewhere during in the VFL.
                                It seems VFL is more about getting a bunch of ball than learning a role within the system. For some players who need some confidence or to rediscover touch that might be appropriate but it’s a really good call that most aren’t getting exposure to what we want them to do at senior level.

                                I get that the game is vastly different in many ways, so maybe what we do is what every team does and it’s the way we have to do it, however it seems odd at face value.
                                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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