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  • Bigdog
    Rookie List
    • Jan 2023
    • 347

    Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

    After yesterday, I?m seeing round 1 as:

    FB: Richards Jones Coffield
    HB: Dale JOD JJ
    C: Williams Libba Poulter
    HF: Mcneil Naughton Daniel
    FF: Weightman Darcy JUH

    C: English Bont Treloar

    I: Lobb West Sanders Harmes VDM (sub - prefer his assets to Mcneil and west, but both out performed him yesterday)

    Macrae will come in if injury free

    Next in line is Buku and Clarke

    One of the mids will need to role through half back for rotations.

    Also scrapping the sub role and going with a 5 player bench would be ideal for the 4 talls.

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    • whythelongface
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 4484

      Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

      Some good selection headaches

      Forward/ ruck: Lobb v Darcy

      Small forwards: Weightman, Harmes and Daniel (all with time in the mids) then there is a battle between VDM, McNeil, West, Scott and Clarke.

      West is looking good. Maybe McNeil (needs consistency and is frustrating at times) or Clarke. Harmes will be best 22 (mid/fwd role).

      Wings: Poulter, Baker, Williams, Bramble. Williams a definite with his ability to play back and forward. The other wing spot is wide open.

      Depth is our key this year. We need 6 to 10 players battling it out every week for spots 18-23. Barring injuries we have 16/17 automatic selections each week. It really is the wings and small forward roles that where our fringe players will generally be needed.

      Ideally we want Clarke and West to cement spots so that there is very little requirement for player rotation week in/ week out.

      Our glaring hole is defensive KPP - Jones and JOD look the goods but if one or both go down we have ok replacements in Gardner and Keath - but not week to week regulars Definitely need Buss to come on this year (asking a lot of 19/20 year old in early development though). Think someone mentioned that English was moving back a fair bit yesterday- I like that idea. Wonder if that means the other ruck (Lobb/ Darcy) plays a similar role.

      All in all feeling positive about the season. Training reports have been fab and there seems to be a good vibe around the club.

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      • meenies
        Rookie List
        • May 2014
        • 212

        Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

        Based on yesterdays practice match and only selecting one game ahead to the Tassie match.

        JJ Jones Richards
        Coffield Darcy (not expecting JOD to play) Dale

        Baker, Treloar, Poulter
        English, Bont, Sanders

        West, Naughton, Harmes
        JUH, Lobb, Weightman

        Bramble (backs), Sanders (centre rotations), CD (Harmes rotation), Clarke (over McNeill)
        Williams as the go anywhere sub

        Gallagher (maybe swap with Baker?), VDM, Khamis, Scott
        Last edited by meenies; 24-02-2024, 03:42 PM. Reason: add extra comment

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        • SquirrelGrip
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2007
          • 1523

          Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

          Originally posted by meenies
          Based on yesterdays practice match and only selecting one game ahead to the Tassie match.

          JJ Jones Richards
          Coffield Darcy (not expecting JOD to play) Dale

          Baker, Treloar, Poulter
          English, Bont, Sanders

          West, Naughton, Harmes
          JUH, Lobb, Weightman

          Bramble (backs), Sanders (centre rotations), CD (Harmes rotation), Clarke (over McNeill)
          Williams as the go anywhere sub

          Gallagher (maybe swap with Baker?), VDM, Khamis, Scott
          Um, where’s Libba?
          "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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          • meenies
            Rookie List
            • May 2014
            • 212

            Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

            Thought I missed someone. On second thoughts I would rest one or more of Treloar or Bont or Libba and keep youngies in one more game.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44622

              Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

              Has Fridays practice game changed the mind of who's in the mix for round one for you or at least raised some addition questions?

              Darcy was impressive, I don't quite know how but he has to be right in the mix for R1
              McNeil has had a solid 6 to 8 weeks on the training track and now has a very good performance under his belt in a position we've struggled with.
              Macrae really needs to get into full training next week or he's very likely to be out of the running.
              Without any real centre bounce attendances I didn't think we got much out Daniel and I wonder if a role change is likely.
              Vandermeer did some nice things but perhaps not enough to hold his spot. Might come down to him or Scott
              Bramble was okay without grabbing his chance.
              West and Williams should have done enough to hold their spots. Gallagher probably didn't do enough.
              Coffield is now probably a lock and Khamis right in the mix.

              The team we pick in the next practice game will provide more answers.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • jazzadogs
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Oct 2008
                • 5641

                Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                Darcy was better than Lobb, but was playing the better role with more ruck time. It's very hard to conceive a way that they can both fit in the team, alongside the other talls. I feel like Darcy's ceiling is higher, even now, but that Lobb will hopefully provide a more consistent presence.

                McNeill locked his spot in my eyes. Cody, West, McNeill as our smaller forwards plus the resting mids (Harmes in that group for me). VDM didn't cut it.

                I've thought coffield was a lock since we traded him in, pending injuries. He has got to this point unscathed and I think he is clearly in our best side.

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10152

                  Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                  Still a bit to play out, however I’m leaning towards:

                  B: Richards, Jones, Coffield
                  HB: Dale, JOD, JJ
                  C: Williams, Libba, Poulter
                  HF: Sanders, Naughton, Weightman
                  F: Lobb, Jamarra, McNeil
                  R: English, Bont, Treloar
                  IC: Daniel, Darcy, Harmes, West
                  S: Baker
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21817

                    Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                    I find it hard to think about our round one side when our teams were butchered so significantly between two games. Next week's praccy will be telling, way too much up in the air right now.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44622

                      Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                      Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                      Still a bit to play out, however I’m leaning towards:

                      B: Richards, Jones, Coffield
                      HB: Dale, JOD, JJ
                      C: Williams, Libba, Poulter
                      HF: Sanders, Naughton, Weightman
                      F: Lobb, Jamarra, McNeil
                      R: English, Bont, Treloar
                      IC: Daniel, Darcy, Harmes, West
                      S: Baker
                      And assuming Macrae isn't going to be ready?
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Uninformed
                        Draftee
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 817

                        Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Has Fridays practice game changed the mind of who's in the mix for round one for you or at least raised some addition questions?

                        Darcy was impressive, I don't quite know how but he has to be right in the mix for R1
                        McNeil has had a solid 6 to 8 weeks on the training track and now has a very good performance under his belt in a position we've struggled with.
                        Macrae really needs to get into full training next week or he's very likely to be out of the running.
                        Without any real centre bounce attendances I didn't think we got much out Daniel and I wonder if a role change is likely.
                        Vandermeer did some nice things but perhaps not enough to hold his spot. Might come down to him or Scott
                        Bramble was okay without grabbing his chance.
                        West and Williams should have done enough to hold their spots. Gallagher probably didn't do enough.
                        Coffield is now probably a lock and Khamis right in the mix.

                        The team we pick in the next practice game will provide more answers.
                        Agree with your thoughts here. Did you see how Clarke went? It sounded like he did very well in the second game.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44622

                          Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                          Originally posted by Uninformed
                          Agree with your thoughts here. Did you see how Clarke went? It sounded like he did very well in the second game.
                          He's performing well especially given he has had his knee strapped over the last week and a half after copping a heavy knock on it.He kicked 4 goals and was genuinely a handful for the Hawks.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Uninformed
                            Draftee
                            • Jan 2023
                            • 817

                            Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            He's performing well especially given he has had his knee strapped over the last week and a half after copping a heavy knock on it.He kicked 4 goals and was genuinely a handful for the Hawks.
                            If he is ready, would he take McNeil's spot? I think West is a lock and McNeil next in line but would love to see a pure crumbing goal-sneak in.

                            Didn't see enough in Gallagher to say he is AFL ready, nor Bramble. But all of Coffield, Harmes, Buku, Poulter and perhaps Baker look like AFL-quality players. Should give our bottom six a lift this year.

                            Really liked Cleary's game too. He seemed very quick to the contest to me. Does he have real pace?

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10152

                              Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              And assuming Macrae isn't going to be ready?
                              Yes, I’ve left Macrae out due to injury (makes selecting the side a little easier to be honest). Based on form, would you pick Macrae (leaving aside reputation)?

                              I also didn’t pick Scott but on reflection he probably should play too (and be in the 22).

                              It’s a bloody tough side to pick. Maybe it becomes a little clearer next week.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • doggies ftw
                                Draftee
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 719

                                Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                                Originally posted by Bigdog
                                After yesterday, I?m seeing round 1 as:

                                FB: Richards Jones Coffield
                                HB: Dale JOD JJ
                                C: Williams Libba Poulter
                                HF: Mcneil Naughton Daniel
                                FF: Weightman Darcy JUH

                                C: English Bont Treloar

                                I: Lobb West Sanders Harmes VDM (sub - prefer his assets to Mcneil and west, but both out performed him yesterday)

                                Macrae will come in if injury free

                                Next in line is Buku and Clarke

                                One of the mids will need to role through half back for rotations.

                                Also scrapping the sub role and going with a 5 player bench would be ideal for the 4 talls.
                                I?ll genuinely quit footy if VDM ever plays over West, he is literally 10x the footballer VDM is

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