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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

    Fully fit:

    My first version. I?m assuming Watson gets to us with Hawks getting Gini & Gunston so they could go another midfielder. I think he can play straight away in the role.

    B: Dale L. Jones Coffield
    HB: Richards JOD JJ
    C: Williams Treloar Poulter
    HF: Sanders Marra Weightman
    F: Lobb Naughton Clarke
    R: English Bont Libba
    I: Smith Macrae Harmes Daniel
    S: West
    E: Darcy Buss Scott Arty

    Rest: Cleary, Garcia, Gardner, Baker, Duryea (?), Gags, VDM, Khamis, Croft, Lual (?), spare ruck (?), recruits or other rookie upgrades.


    Early rationale:

    3 talls, 3 smalls up forward (Sanders starting there). With Bont & Adz to rest there. Darcy as the next tall forward in line. I prefer this but expect we will have a midfield capable HHF taking a spot, although I wouldn?t mind seeing Cody spend a few minutes on ball to add some burst speed and X factor to a similar midfield.

    A more mobile defence. Unless the oppo is very tall. Coffield as the third tall type. Would prefer games into Buss over Gardner. Croft into the defence group. I?d consider moving Daniel back too, with Smith to get more time in the middle and perhaps Macrae and Harmes coming in and hopefully West stepping up, perhaps we move him back to where he won an AA jacket.

    Mids to rotate more. I?m assuming Smith has been promised more mid time so I expect him in a bit more. I?m a bit concerned over where Macrae fits in, but hopefully he can get back to his best or close to it. I think Lobb should get a few more minutes every quarter and English can drift forward or play around d with him as a tall utility that floats where he thinks we need him during the game.

    There still seems like plenty of talent on paper. But the game plan, CBA rotations, defence, tagging (Harmes ?), and I50 entries are going to hurt with missing easy goals. Hopefully some new assistants can help here.
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 21-11-2023, 11:16 AM.
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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14306

    #2
    Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Fully fit:

    My first version. I?m assuming Watson gets to us with Hawks getting Gini & Gunston so they could go another midfielder. I think he can play straight away in the role.

    B: Dale L. Jones Coffield
    HB: Richards JOD JJ
    C: Williams Treloar Poulter
    HF: Watson (?) Marra Weightman
    F: Lobb Naughton Clarke
    R: English Bont Libba
    I: Smith Macrae Harmes Daniel
    S: West
    E: Darcy Buss Scott Arty

    Rest: Cleary, Garcia, Gardner, Baker, Duryea (?), Gags, VDM, Khamis, Croft, Lual (?), spare ruck (?), recruits or other rookie upgrades.


    Early rationale:

    3 talls, 3 smalls up forward. With Bont & Adz to rest there. Darcy as the next tall forward in line. I prefer this but expect we will have a midfield capable HHF taking a spot, although I wouldn?t mind seeing Cody spend a few minutes on ball to add some burst speed and X factor to a similar midfield.

    A more mobile defence. Unless the oppo is very tall. Coffield as the third tall type. Would prefer games into Buss over Gardner. Croft into the defence group. I?d consider moving Daniel back too, with Smith to get more time in the middle and perhaps Macrae and Harmes coming in and hopefully West stepping up, perhaps we move him back to where he won an AA jacket.

    Mids to rotate more. I?m assuming Smith has been promised more mid time so I expect him in a bit more. I?m a bit concerned over where Macrae fits in, but hopefully he can get back to his best or close to it. I think Lobb should get a few more minutes every quarter and English can drift forward or play around d with him as a tall utility that floats where he thinks we need him during the game.

    There still seems like plenty of talent on paper. But the game plan, CBA rotations, defence, tagging (Harmes ?), and I50 entries are going to hurt with missing easy goals. Hopefully some new assistants can help here.
    Looks like we will have another strong VFL team next year
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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6444

      #3
      Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

      Good team selection BT, but you have to wonder where Busslinger will fit in following the arrival of Coffield.

      If the answer is close to zero games in season 2024, then he may well ask for a trade back home because of lack of opportunities.
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44635

        #4
        Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

        Originally posted by Dry Rot
        Good team selection BT, but you have to wonder where Busslinger will fit in following the arrival of Coffield.

        If the answer is close to zero games in season 2024, then he may well ask for a trade back home because of lack of opportunities.
        They're very different players though and Busslinger is more of the understudy to Keath, Gardner and Jones where Coffield is replacing TOB and is in competition more with JOD for a spot.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #5
          Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

          Originally posted by Dry Rot
          Good team selection BT, but you have to wonder where Busslinger will fit in following the arrival of Coffield.

          If the answer is close to zero games in season 2024, then he may well ask for a trade back home because of lack of opportunities.
          I think Coff is in for TOB/Croz. Buss and either Keath/Gardner fighting for the third tall if we need to go in with the extra tall. I’m hoping Buss can jump both of them and we can look at the future with JOD & Buss and how they best work together. Whose the better 2nd KPD and who’s the better interceptor although with Jones I think Jones is still our best interceptor.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • josie
            Coaching Staff
            • Oct 2012
            • 4482

            #6
            Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

            Good selection. I’d swap Garcia for Clarke.
            Josie :)

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            And we'll have everything.
            We'll share the joy
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #7
              Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

              Originally posted by josie
              Good selection. I’d swap Garcia for Clarke.
              I can’t remember who starts the ‘bolter for season 2024’ thread. But Clarke is my bolter. I wouldn’t mind seeing Garcia trialled back for my ‘Bevo Special’ magnet switcheroo.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • josie
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2012
                • 4482

                #8
                Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                I can’t remember who starts the ‘bolter for season 2024’ thread. But Clarke is my bolter. I wouldn’t mind seeing Garcia trialled back for my ‘Bevo Special’ magnet switcheroo.
                Good thinking. Garcia has tenacity that might work in backline. I feel he is the type of player that might flourish with a specific role. He is short though and possibly not great overhead, but when/if ball hits ground he is like a terrier. I hope you are right about Clarke. From what I’ve seen in vfl he is a good team player, but not as agile as I was hoping. Let’s hope he has a great pre-season.
                Josie :)

                Our day will come
                And we'll have everything.
                We'll share the joy
                Just like '54 again.

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5904

                  #9
                  Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Fully fit:

                  My first version. I?m assuming Watson gets to us with Hawks getting Gini & Gunston so they could go another midfielder. I think he can play straight away in the role.

                  B: Dale L. Jones Coffield
                  HB: Richards JOD JJ
                  C: Williams Treloar Poulter
                  HF: Watson (?) Marra Weightman
                  F: Lobb Naughton Clarke
                  R: English Bont Libba
                  I: Smith Macrae Harmes Daniel
                  S: West
                  E: Darcy Buss Scott Arty

                  Rest: Cleary, Garcia, Gardner, Baker, Duryea (?), Gags, VDM, Khamis, Croft, Lual (?), spare ruck (?), recruits or other rookie upgrades.
                  I like the line up but I'm still not sold on Clarke and I think he would have to shine in any of the Pre season stuff to earn a spot in the starting line up.
                  I'd swap him with West and Scott as the Sub. But I do like the rest.
                  Don't piss off old people
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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7697

                    #10
                    Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                    I mean you look at that line-up and think it's strong. But then it just doesn't happen. We really need a couple of new players to step up. By new I mean guys who haven't stepped up previously.

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                    • kruder
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2011
                      • 3856

                      #11
                      Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                      I reckon Darcy will play round 1 in front of Lobb. It's his third year and it's time to get games into him, I just can't see him in defence at all. English look cooked in the last third of the year I think we need to rest him forward more.

                      Really like this setup BT, it would solve a lot of the ball movement issues we faced last year, I just prefer Daniel forward/mid I'm not a fan of his ability to defend.

                      B: Dale L. Jones Coffield
                      HB: Richards JOD JJ

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11841

                        #12
                        Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                        Originally posted by kruder
                        I reckon Darcy will play round 1 in front of Lobb. It's his third year and it's time to get games into him, I just can't see him in defence at all. English look cooked in the last third of the year I think we need to rest him forward more.

                        Really like this setup BT, it would solve a lot of the ball movement issues we faced last year, I just prefer Daniel forward/mid I'm not a fan of his ability to defend.

                        B: Dale L. Jones Coffield
                        HB: Richards JOD JJ
                        Maybe we should ruck Lobb more then. Not sure bringing in Darcy and resting English forward more are quite compatible notions right now. Maybe in another season or two.
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                        • EasternWest
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10002

                          #13
                          Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                          Am I the only one who's extremely wary of the Darcy hype train?

                          Maybe I'm still suffering Ayceitis.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18959

                            #14
                            Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                            Originally posted by EasternWest
                            Am I the only one who's extremely wary of the Darcy hype train?

                            Maybe I'm still suffering Ayceitis.
                            Yes.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Bulldog4life
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9607

                              #15
                              Re: Best/Starting 23, Round 1 2024

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              Am I the only one who's extremely wary of the Darcy hype train?

                              Maybe I'm still suffering Ayceitis.
                              Maybe wary of Darcy senior's friendships but not Sammy as a future gun. Put your second house on it EW.

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