Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Not worth a 1st or 2nd rounder. We need pace, but I dont rate the type of pace Lovett would bring. He only 'turns up' every third week. He is too lightly framed. Would prefer a speedster more in the style of Brent Moloney. Strong body can do the work when things are going against us.
If we need skinny speedsters why did we give Jordan away?

[GVGjr]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Not worth a 1st or 2nd rounder. We need pace, but I dont rate the type of pace Lovett would bring. He only 'turns up' every third week. He is too lightly framed. Would prefer a speedster more in the style of Brent Moloney. Strong body can do the work when things are going against us.
If we need skinny speedsters why did we give Jordan away?

Moloney is no quicker than Boyd and given we already have Cross, who isn't quick either, adding someone like Moloney would be overkill.

We moved McMahon on because he wasn't giving his footy 100% commitment but we do miss his pace, run and carry a lot.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Moloney is no quicker than Boyd and given we already have Cross, who isn't quick either, adding someone like Moloney would be overkill.

We moved McMahon on because he wasn't giving his footy 100% commitment but we do miss his pace, run and carry a lot.

I would be suprised if Maloney isnt faster than Boyd and Cross. And i said in the style of Brent Moloney, nuggety outside player.
We need speed, thats why West cant go on, but i dont think we need more skinny,light weight speedsters.

[hujsh]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Oh my god i love some of the writers in the HUN, one minute they say West Coast are interested but in same article say they couldnt get hold of West Coast, so how do they know they are interested?
Talk about making up stuff.
Rischitelli , now thats interesting, wasnt he a Western Jets player? Maybe get him back home?
Would love to have him, a centreman who knows where the goals are and can kick them.

Lovett to Freo or West Coast, sounds like he belongs there with the history they all have.
Clayton didnt hold back did he with letting the footy world know who we are taking.

What could we give for Rischitelli? The Lions would want a top 10 pick or one or 2 quality players.

[ledge]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Well if Rischitelli is out of contract and wants to come home, reduces Lions bargaining power, other point, we are out of race if they want top ten pick because we wont have one.
Also depends on whether we have a player they are after, would think it would be another along his style because they have enough talls.
If Rischitelli does want to come back to Melbourne he will have to do it this year as next year with GC 17 coming in it will be a lot harder.
This is just hypothetical of course, he might be happy up there.
I know where I would rather be weather wise!

[GVGjr]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

I would be suprised if Maloney isnt faster than Boyd and Cross. And i said in the style of Brent Moloney, nuggety outside player.
We need speed, thats why West cant go on, but i dont think we need more skinny,light weight speedsters.

Really Moloney isn't any quicker than Boyd and he is more of an insider player anyway.
I think what you are trying to say is that you would prefer a guy like Griffen than one like McMahon. Pace with some size rather than pace without.

Just out of curiosity, how many skinny light weight speedsters do you think we have on the list?

I was talking to one of the Bulldogs folk yesterday and he mentioned that the club was keen to add speedsters to the list. They genuinely believe we need to target a couple of young speedy types in the draft.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Really Moloney isn't any quicker than Boyd and he is more of an insider player anyway.
I think what you are trying to say is that you would prefer a guy like Griffen than one like McMahon. Pace with some size rather than pace without.

Just out of curiosity, how many skinny light weight speedsters do you think we have on the list?

I was talking to one of the Bulldogs folk yesterday and he mentioned that the club was keen to add speedsters to the list. They genuinely believe we need to target a couple of young speedy types in the draft.

I dont think we have many skinny speedsters on the list (Geelong have less). Maybe thats why we have been more competitve this year. And yes.. we need more Griffen style speedsters than Lovett/Mcmahon.

[GVGjr]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

I dont think we have many skinny speedsters on the list (Geelong have less). Maybe thats why we have been more competitve this year. And yes.. we need more Griffen style speedsters than Lovett/Mcmahon.

The reality is that you need a balance and pace is very important in the AFL today.
Most clubs would rather have a guy a bit on the lean side that can run than one who is well built but a touch slow. Thats why guys like Griffen and Cooney are so valuable because they have both size and heaps of pace.
I wouldn't knock a player just because he is skinny though. Sam Blease has heaps of pace and good skills but is very lean. If we had another first round pick this year he would be a terrific player to draft. You can teach young players the skills that they will need (with a few exceptions) and add size through a training regime, but it's very difficult for a player that isn't naturally quick to become a genuine speedster.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

I dont think we have many skinny speedsters on the list (Geelong have less). Maybe thats why we have been more competitve this year. And yes.. we need more Griffen style speedsters than Lovett/Mcmahon.

Stokes, Byrnes, Varcoe, (Djerrka or whatever his name is).

Nothing wrong with being skinny if you can play

[Bornadog]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Stokes, Byrnes, Varcoe, (Djerrka or whatever his name is).

Nothing wrong with being skinny if you can play

Murphy

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Add Mackie for Geelong.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Back to the argument of cost.

We wont have a first rounder to spend. Would you cough up a second rounder for him or try for a kid like Mitch Banner is he's still around.

3rd rounder and Street might not get too much currency, perhaps Lynch might have some interrest for Essendon. A swap of positive attitude deficient players.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Stokes, Byrnes, Varcoe, (Djerrka or whatever his name is).

Nothing wrong with being skinny if you can play

All those Geelong players work a lot harder and are more reliable than Lovett.

[GVGjr]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

Back to the argument of cost.

We wont have a first rounder to spend. Would you cough up a second rounder for him or try for a kid like Mitch Banner is he's still around.

3rd rounder and Street might not get too much currency, perhaps Lynch might have some interrest for Essendon. A swap of positive attitude deficient players.

I think a second rounder is all that he is worth but I still don't think I would part with it. A player for player trade might be best but I doubt we have too much that would interest the Bombers. You would also need to be sure that his attitude issues are more of a blip than the norm though.

By the way, Banner shouldn't still be around when we have our 2nd pick.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Dogs after Essendon's Lovett.

I think a second rounder is all that he is worth but I still don't think I would part with it. A player for player trade might be best but I doubt we have too much that would interest the Bombers. You would also need to be sure that his attitude issues are more of a blip than the norm though.

By the way, Banner might not still be around when we have our 2nd pick. He could go later though.

My thoughts re: Lovett too. The closest i can see is our 3rd and Street for a low third rounder. Hoping that there is little competition, or he nomintaes us???

Re: Banner, shame the new f/s rule comes in this year. Clayton was very honest to say we've committed our first pick for Ayce so far out....