Tim English - What Price do you pay?

[azabob]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Luke has been very poor this season as a ruckman

Not sure if you are having a go? I never said anything about Jackson ruck form this year.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Agree he had a good game against Saints, but I am talking his ruck work which has not been good. When he is in the ruck, his HTA is at 33%.

Ah ok I see which stat you are referring.

It's not a massive difference to Tim, which BTW I'm not arguing his importance but Jackson's.

[Bornadog]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Not sure if you are having a go? I never said anything about Jackson ruck form this year.

No not having a go at all. Just commenting on Luke in General, and pointing out his ruck work. Around the ground he has been good.

[Happy Days]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Jackson is fantastic as a first ruck. He’s the best ground ball ruckman since Nicnat and some of his work leaving clearances is a 1:1 copy.

As a forward he has the worst hands above his head this side of Will Minson.

If I was them I would drop Darcy and turn Jackson loose. Seems to be obvious to everyone but the only guy whose opinion matters.

[Bornadog]

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Ah ok I see which stat you are referring.

It's not a massive difference to Tim, which BTW I'm not arguing his importance but Jackson's.

Tim is ranked 3rd for HTA, Luke 15th

[mighty_west]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Jackson is fantastic as a first ruck. He’s the best ground ball ruckman since Nicnat and some of his work leaving clearances is a 1:1 copy.

As a forward he has the worst hands above his head this side of Will Minson.

If I was them I would drop Darcy and turn Jackson loose. Seems to be obvious to everyone but the only guy whose opinion matters.

"IF" i was Freo i would be moving heaven and earth to facilitate a trade to swap Sean Darcy with Tim English, Tim to become a very decent tall forward and give Jackson a chop out as their number 1, and Darcy to become the Dogs number 1, however........

Question is, who says no?

[Happy Days]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

"IF" i was Freo i would be moving heaven and earth to facilitate a trade to swap Sean Darcy with Tim English, Tim to become a very decent tall forward and give Jackson a chop out as their number 1, and Darcy to become the Dogs number 1, however........

Question is, who says no?

Us, we say no. Darcy’s body isn’t up to a full season and English is better anyway.

[JanLorMill]

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Us, we say no. Darcy’s body isn’t up to a full season and English is better anyway.

Sean Darcy not Sam

[JanLorMill]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

"IF" i was Freo i would be moving heaven and earth to facilitate a trade to swap Sean Darcy with Tim English, Tim to become a very decent tall forward and give Jackson a chop out as their number 1, and Darcy to become the Dogs number 1, however........

Question is, who says no?

I like the idea but I wouldn’t pay $1M to any ruck.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Jackson is fantastic as a first ruck. He’s the best ground ball ruckman since Nicnat and some of his work leaving clearances is a 1:1 copy.

As a forward he has the worst hands above his head this side of Will Minson.

If I was them I would drop Darcy and turn Jackson loose. Seems to be obvious to everyone but the only guy whose opinion matters.

Signed Darcy until 2030 so they might have snookered themselves.
I agree with you. Jackson needs to be first ruck.

[mighty_west]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Us, we say no. Darcy’s body isn’t up to a full season and English is better anyway.

That's the issue for me, Darcy has never looked fit enough, in his early days i thought he looked like your average park footballer who would hit the tinnies hard after every game and session, very good ruckman but Tim is a lot more versatile......and fit.

[mighty_west]

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I like the idea but I wouldn’t pay $1M to any ruck.

Yep crazy money for a ruckman, The Pies shot themselves big time with their mega deal for Grundy, but then the Dees go and do something as stupid and bring him in when neither he or Gawn are decent enough forwards.

[Bornadog]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Yep crazy money for a ruckman, The Pies shot themselves big time with their mega deal for Grundy, but then the Dees go and do something as stupid and bring him in when neither he or Gawn are decent enough forwards.

Why is it crazy money? If the market deems that is what you pay, then you have little choice. Either you pay, or get a crap ordinary ruckman.

[JanLorMill]

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Why is it crazy money? If the market deems that is what you pay, then you have little choice. Either you pay, or get a crap ordinary ruckman.

History tells you don’t win premierships with million dollar rucks. They would have to be extra special and English isn’t that. Gawn would be the only one recent and even he was matched by a well past it cheap ruck in Martin on the day. Jackson won it but was not a million day player at the time.

[Glove38]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Been much happier with Tims aggression in the last few weeks. I hope it continues as he becomes a much more valuable player with this in his game.