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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14304

    #31
    Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

    Originally posted by hujsh
    Alternative read: their standards have dropped over time
    Well that’s a negative look at it if ever I have seen one.
    Fact is footy evolves every year. Seems to be speed is the thing this year.
    We also have more ready talls than we have ever had, so the standard has changed structurally and maybe more running than before as opposed to hand balling which we focussed on a lot over the years.
    But the way we lost last week suggests nothing has changed .. let’s wait and see.
    Bring back the biff

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11839

      #32
      Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

      Originally posted by bornadog
      What does that even mean?
      I feel like it's pretty clear but in the name of charitability.

      Macrae & Daniel. Presumably have set high standards in the past (all australians, high B&F finishes etc)

      Sanders and Gallager. Have 'set a standard they (Macrae & CD) need to rise to' presumable since they've created selection pressure and have been selected.

      Sanders and Gallager are 1st and 2nd year players with better standards than seasoned AA caliber players? Or at least close enough that it's worth considering playing them first. Are they so amazing as to overshadow these players so early in their careers or maybe these players have dropped off such that it's possible for a 1st and 2nd year player to surpass them in some way? My interpretation is that if Macrae and Daniel are not meeting the standards being set now then their personal standards must have dropped considering what they've achieved in the past.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11839

        #33
        Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

        Originally posted by ledge
        Well that’s a negative look at it if ever I have seen one.
        Fact is footy evolves every year. Seems to be speed is the thing this year.
        We also have more ready talls than we have ever had, so the standard has changed structurally and maybe more running than before as opposed to hand balling which we focussed on a lot over the years.
        But the way we lost last week suggests nothing has changed .. let’s wait and see.
        Macrae and CD should be able to handle the running focus better than a first year player who was clearly gassed in the third quarter
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66695

          #34
          Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

          Originally posted by hujsh
          Macrae and CD should be able to handle the running focus better than a first year player who was clearly gassed in the third quarter
          Bevo was asked last week why Sanders came off and he said we had a the choice of a few, but preferred someone with experience to stay on.
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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11839

            #35
            Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Bevo was asked last week why Sanders came off and he said we had a the choice of a few, but preferred someone with experience to stay on.
            Sure, but did you see his last few efforts? He was completely spent, lost so much penetration in his kicking though fatigue. Could see it in his set shot that didn't make the distance and when he turned it over after his team mates were kind enough to not bother leading.
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • Vred
              Senior Player
              • Nov 2018
              • 1294

              #36
              Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

              Why does it feel I'm being gaslit by the head coach when watching his presser today?
              [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11839

                #37
                Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                Originally posted by Vred
                Why does it feel I'm being gaslit by the head coach when watching his presser today?
                You're being crazy. You must remember it wrong.
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Vred
                  Senior Player
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 1294

                  #38
                  Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  You're being crazy. You must remember it wrong.
                  The definition of crazy is doing something the same way and expecting a different outcome .. or something like that.
                  [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9876

                    #39
                    Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                    Originally posted by Vred
                    The definition of crazy is doing something the same way and expecting a different outcome .. or something like that.
                    Really poor words to start the press conference off wasn't it?

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                    • Vred
                      Senior Player
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 1294

                      #40
                      Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                      Originally posted by G-Mo77
                      Really poor words to start the press conference off wasn't it?
                      I don't even know what to make of it.
                      Really defensive about Macca to the point he almost seemed offended he was being asked about it?
                      Constant talk about evolution (Are we playing Pokemon now?)
                      Rolling out really bad lines like the one above about 'definition of crazy'
                      Re-writing history surrounding Naughton's pre-draft played position (he played both ends of the ground but was never strictly a forward).

                      I've given up trying to get a read on Bevo.
                      [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                      • angelopetraglia
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6838

                        #41
                        Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        Really poor words to start the press conference off wasn't it?
                        Sounded like he was repeating something that someone has told him recently!!!!!! Maybe Peter Jackson.

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14304

                          #42
                          Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                          Strange presser indeed, definitely not his usual kind.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11839

                            #43
                            Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                            Originally posted by Vred
                            The definition of crazy is doing something the same way and expecting a different outcome .. or something like that.
                            He must have read WOOF and saw Ledge's comment.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14304

                              #44
                              Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              He must have read WOOF and saw Ledge's comment.
                              He takes a lot out of WOOF . Whether it’s coaching ideas or press statements.
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • mighty_west
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3438

                                #45
                                Re: Bevo's brief and press conference

                                Bevo is absolutely putting things back on the players, maybe he has lost a few players trust, but the talk early with Sanders was that his standards for a draftee was elite, and that he is looking at CD and Jack and maybe a few others that they simply need to lift in that area, maybe they've become a little comfortable in their roles and it's the coach putting that heat back on with pressure on their spots where's that might have been there in the past.

                                It also sounds like to me, a mini rebuild to go with those standards, and Sanders and Gallagher deserving a spot in the side given the standards they are displaying and what they have shown during pre season match sims and pre season games and now getting games into them, all players on notice to lift your game and not repeat what's happened the past few seasons given the evolution quote.

                                Darcy another, comes into the side for Lobb, young for old and perhaps whilst Lobb may have had a slightly better pre season than Darcy, his game on the weekend may not have been up to standard enough to hold Darcy out and as we know, Darce has been banging the door down.

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